Hello all, I want setup Fidonet for my Amiga BBS again, I used TrapDoor back in the days, but TrapDoor can only handle modem calls.
What can i use to fetch and send Fodonet mails that use TCP/IP connections?

I have everything else configured for Fidonet in the BBS software but I can not send/recieve mail.

Conny / Digital Zone BBS

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Hi Conny,

I think I mentioned this to you earlier but I only use the Amiga sida for the reading/writing of FidoNet. The mailer and the tosser I run in Linux. Since I'm not running a real hardware Amiga but an emulator in Linux this is pretty stratightforward since the Linux side and Amiga sida have a shared filesystem.

When using a real Amiga you might be able to accomplish something similar by using a network file system or some other mechanism to transfer files between Linux and Amiga.

For TrapDoor you might be able to use telnetd.device (just like NiKom does). This should work at least for incoming connections. Outgoing connections might be trickier..

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There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that run on the same machine.

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Den 2022-01-29 kl. 13:06, skrev 2201/420:

Hi Conny,

I think I mentioned this to you earlier but I only use the Amiga sida
for the reading/writing of FidoNet. The mailer and the tosser I run in Linux. Since I'm not running a real hardware Amiga but an emulator in Linux this is pretty stratightforward since the Linux side and Amiga
sida have a shared filesystem.

When using a real Amiga you might be able to accomplish something
similar by using a network file system or some other mechanism to
transfer files between Linux and Amiga.

For TrapDoor you might be able to use telnetd.device (just like NiKom does). This should work at least for incoming connections. Outgoing connections might be trickier..

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I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?
My NiKom is already configed for Fidonet.

Conny

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I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a standard package to install.

As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes.
https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail

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Den 2022-01-29 kl. 16:40, skrev 2201/420:
 CE>> I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a
standard package to install.

As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original
developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes. https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail

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Seems like I miss something to compile it, in every output when running make I get the error "cc -Wall -Werror -Wno-deprecated-declarations".

Conny

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Den 2022-01-29 kl. 16:40, skrev 2201/420:
 CE>> I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a
standard package to install.

As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original
developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes. https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail

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I think I manage to compile it, the binary files are in /usr/bin but I can't find the .prefs files? They exist in the compile folder but nowhere else.:

conny@conny-desktop:~/crashmail$ sudo make install
make -C jamlib
make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/jamlib”
make[1]: ”jamlib.a” är aktuell.
make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/jamlib”
make -C cmnllib
make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/cmnllib”
make[1]: ”cmnllib.a” är aktuell.
make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/cmnllib”
make -C oslib_linux
make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/oslib_linux”
make[1]: ”oslib.a” är aktuell.
make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/oslib_linux”
Linking crashmail/crashmail.
/usr/bin/ld: crashmail/filter.o: in function `Filter_Execute': filter.c:(.text+0x20bd): varning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
Linking tools/crashlist.
Linking tools/crashstats.
Linking tools/crashgetnode.
Linking tools/crashmaint.
Linking tools/crashwrite.
Linking tools/crashexport.
Linking tools/crashlistout.
install -d -m 755 /usr/bin
install -d -m 755 /usr/share/man/man1
install -m 755 crashmail/crashmail tools/crashlist tools/crashstats tools/crashgetnode tools/crashmaint tools/crashwrite tools/crashexport tools/crashlistout /usr/bin
install -m 644 man/crashmaint.1 man/crashstats.1 man/crashgetnode.1 man/crashlist.1 man/crashexport.1 man/crashwrite.1 man/crashmail.1 /usr/share/man/man1

it_detects_dupes_successfully: [PASS]
it_merges_packets: [PASS]
it_routes_packets: [PASS]
crashmail
it_generates_alpha_sorted_stats: [PASS]
it_generates_message_sorted_stats: [PASS]
it_generates_byday_sorted_stats: [PASS]
it_generates_byfirstimport_sorted_stats: [PASS]
it_generates_bylastimport_sorted_stats: [PASS]
it_generates_bydupes_sorted_stats: [PASS]
areafix
it_generates_area_list: [PASS]
it_subscribes_node: [PASS] =========================================================
Tests: 19 | Passed: 19 | Skipped: 0 | Failed: 0
make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/tests”

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I think I manage to compile it, the binary files are in /usr/bin but I can't find the .prefs files? They exist in the compile folder but
nowhere else.:

In Johan's original, it's located in the doc folder:

Volume in drive S is Media
Volume Serial Number is F0CE-5E9F

Directory of S:\JAMNNTP\crashmail-0.71\doc

2022-01-30 12:40 <DIR> .
2022-01-30 12:40 <DIR> ..
2001-05-15 18:39 4 224 AreafixHelp.txt
2003-12-03 22:17 19 198 example.prefs
2004-07-10 13:44 8 377 filter.txt
2004-07-10 14:15 16 133 History.txt
2003-12-03 07:10 16 467 ReadMe.txt
6 File(s) 64 428 bytes
2 Dir(s) 53 694 959 616 bytes free




..

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//Hello Conny,//

on *29.01.22* at *17:45:09* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
to *All* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

Your messages have charset set to UTF-8 while at least the sender name is obviously Latin-1 encoded- Same for Bjoern.

How are you actually writing these Mails (with Mozilla in the tearline)?

Regards,
Tim
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Den 2022-01-30 kl. 21:52, skrev 2240/1120.29:

//Hello Conny,//

on *29.01.22* at *17:45:09* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
to *All* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

Your messages have charset set to UTF-8 while at least the sender name
is obviously Latin-1 encoded- Same for Bjoern.

How are you actually writing these Mails (with Mozilla in the tearline)?

Regards,
Tim
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Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct. I try to setup binkd so I can get Fidonet back to my BBS.
Yes I write in Thunderbird right now until I can get binkd and everyting to work.

Conny Enstrom

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Hi Niklas,

On 2022-01-29 13:13:09, you wrote to you:

There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable
and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that
run on the same machine.

I never used it myself, but what I understand from others who did: you need to increase the stack size for this program, to get it to function more stable...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect
you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct.

That's what your Thunderbird is defaulting to. If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och där väljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

I think... :)

Björn
Enström

Looking OK?

..

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Bj�rn Felten -> Conny Enstr�m skrev 2022-01-31 18:15:

If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och d�r v�ljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

Or better yet, if you do it in Visa->Kodning *before you* comment the message, the header will look OK as well. Sorry...



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Den 2022-01-31 kl. 18:08, skrev 2280/464:

Hi Niklas,

On 2022-01-29 13:13:09, you wrote to you:

 NL>> There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable
 NL>> and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that
 NL>> run on the same machine.

I never used it myself, but what I understand from others who did: you need to increase the stack size for this program, to get it to function more stable...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Yes I know, ( stack 50000 ) but AmiBinkd want to use AmiTCP, since the BBS and Amiga system right now is running on FS-UAE in Linux and using bsdsocket.library and the telnetd.device for the BBS software for connections.

Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

Conny

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Den 2022-01-31 kl. 18:15, skrev 2203/2:
 CE>> Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect
 CE>> you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct.

   That's what your Thunderbird is defaulting to. If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och där väljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

   I think... :)

   Björn
   Enström

   Looking OK?

.

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Västeuropeisk ISO-8859-1 var redan inställt.

Conny

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Hi Conny,

On 2022-01-31 18:50:15, you wrote to me:

Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

I've noticed your posts in the BINKD area. It should be a problem. I've always compiled mine myself. I use it without the perl dependency, because I don't need it:

# ldd binkd
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd323ce000)
libbz2.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007f8fbefaa000)
libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007f8fbed94000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f8fbeb7c000)
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f8fbe7d4000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000055ebd5141000)


Bye, Wilfred.

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//Hello Bjoern,//

on *31.01.2022* at *17:21:14* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
to *Bj�rn Felten* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

Bjoern Felten -> Conny Enstroem skrev 2022-01-31 18:15:

If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och daer vaeljer
ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

Or better yet, if you do it in Visa->Kodning before you comment the message, the header will look OK as well. Sorry...

indeed!

Regards,
Tim
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Hello Conny!

31 Jan 22 18:50, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

As others have said, your best to compile it for your system... This will help you.
Then just copy the binkd program to your location of choice.


git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
cd binkd
cp mkfls/unix/* .
./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
make







Stephen


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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 01:24, skrev 3633/280:

   Hello Conny!

31 Jan 22 18:50, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

 CE>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and
 CE>> running in the BBS.

As others have said, your best to compile it for your system... This
will help you.
Then just copy the binkd program to your location of choice.

git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
cd binkd
cp mkfls/unix/* .
./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
make

Stephen

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But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.

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Hello Conny!

01 Feb 22 16:10, you wrote to me:

 CE>>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet
 CE>>> up and running in the BBS.

As others have said, your best to compile it for your system...
This will help you. Then just copy the binkd program to your
location of choice.

git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
cd binkd
cp mkfls/unix/* .
./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
make

But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.

Nop... no perl...


husky@host:~/bin$ ./binkd -vv
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 30 2022 17:26:02/Linux)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

husky@host:~/bin$ ldd binkd
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc24f38000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f0b0952b000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0b0950e000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f0b094f4000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0b0932f000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0b09581000)





Stephen


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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 23:12, skrev 3633/280:

   Hello Conny!

01 Feb 22 16:10, you wrote to me:

  CE>>>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet
  CE>>>> up and running in the BBS.

 SW>>> As others have said, your best to compile it for your system...
 SW>>> This will help you. Then just copy the binkd program to your
 SW>>> location of choice.

 SW>>> git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
 SW>>> cd binkd
 SW>>> cp mkfls/unix/* .
 SW>>> ./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
 SW>>> make

 CE>> But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.

Nop... no perl...

husky@host:~/bin$ ./binkd -vv
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 30 2022 17:26:02/Linux)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

husky@host:~/bin$ ldd binkd
        linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc24f38000)
        libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f0b0952b000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0b0950e000)
        libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f0b094f4000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0b0932f000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0b09581000)

Stephen

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I got the latest version as a binary, works like a charma, now the rest is to setup the BBS side and see if binkd can cooparate with the TrapToss software for Amiga.

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