16 Mar 22 20:55, Matt Munson wrote to Alan
Ianson:
There are bilingual nations such as Canada
or even Switzerland.
Switzerland even has four <sic!> official
languages: German, French, Italian and
Romansh.
How would you react to the situation if heavily armed Romaniansit happened in history.
carried out a coup d'tat in Switzerland and began to oppress the
German-speaking population, legally banning the use of the German
language in all forms, with criminal prosecution in the form of
lynching? The answer "this cannot happen" is not accepted. Maybe. ON>And
it happened in history.There are two countries in Europe that Adolf
Hitler chose not to invade. Or even threaten
to invade. Those two countries are
Switzerland and Turkey. The reasons why are
very easy to understand. Switzerland is the
most militant country in Europe, with almost
every citizen armed and trained. And Turkey
was where the Crusaders got stopped cold.
You could just admit that Putin has never told that "Ukraine has no
right to exists". A lie for the sake of truth is a well know thing,
but nevertheless....
PS: The next thing of this kind from the Ukraine side, I believe, will
be a canister with chlorine blown in a Kiev kindergarten.
You mean - Putin? Because Russia is not Putin. And he is crazy
enough.
Yes, Putin.
I have never told it is OK. Civilians who suffer in Donbass, now in Mariupol etc are poor ones. I said only, many times, that Zelensky has
had a lot of time to solve the Donbass problem peacefully, but he is
under control of nationalists and he is never able to compromise. Hate
So you are just guessing that they won't be ok? At the moment
they are hate our country because some of their relatives were
killed:( So we killed them because we wanted to protect Russian
language?!
It is a good example how idiots can create a big chaos without even a
good reason. But surely it is obvious who triggered the events. And I
said it many times.
Let's face it, shall we? In 1940, Switzerland concluded an agreement
with Hitler for the transit of Nazi cargo and, in addition, provided a loan of 150 million Swiss francs. Well, plus the obligation to sell
gold for Reichsmarks. And so it is of course "neutrality" and solid Heroes.
it happened in history.
There are two countries in Europe that Adolf
Hitler chose not to invade. Or even threaten
to invade. Those two countries are
Switzerland and Turkey. The reasons why are
very easy to understand. Switzerland is the
most militant country in Europe, with almost
every citizen armed and trained. And Turkey
was where the Crusaders got stopped cold.
Let's face it, shall we? In 1940, Switzerland concluded an agreement with Hitler for the transit of Nazi cargo and, in addition, provided a loan of 150 million Swiss francs. Well, plus the obligation to sell gold for Reichsmarks. And so it is of course "neutrality" and solid Heroes.
RT is not news. It is propaganda. There is much of that here and it
makes it hard to find real news and facts. I have not been reading
sputnik but I'll assume it was also propaganda. I will not miss any
of it.
I said again -- it is completely wrong to say that Russian media under
Putin control tells a lie only. I have already told you a Russian saying "Strength is in the truth".
Putin's propaganda is based on many real facts and events.
Yes it contains many lies, but it also contains much truth. And you voluntarily deprive yourself from this big part of the truth. And your position became biased.
You can trust Russian media for instance that even today corpses in
Donensk from Ukraine shells and missles appear every day. You can hear
how witnesses tell that nationalist block them from being evacuated etc.
You can learn many things to make your understanding more balanced.
But Russian media are blocked and you hear only those thing they allow
you to.
Does that suprise you also? He got the same treatment a couple days
ago when he addressed the Canadian parliament.
I myself have much respect and admiration for Zelensky. He is a
great leader. he is a polar opposite to that man names Putin.
He is a professional actor, a professional clown, and he knows very well
how to work with public. But exactly his unwillingness to solve the
Dobbass problem for so many years and his policy towards the conflict escalation has led to the present day situation. Very much blood lies on
the Zelensky hands.
Probably Russia saw a good example in face of the US who does everything
it wants in every part of the world, and asks nobody's permission. In
other words the real situation is the following -- if you are strong you
can do what a weak cannot do. Weak parties should think twice or more
before teasing the beast with a bunch of nukes under his belt,
who in addition is next to them. Nationalists in Ukraine, if they were not
so idiots, should have calculated what their policy of forceful ukrainizaion can lead their country.
Do you think that somebody in Ukraine will tell good about Russia to the reporter surrounded by a pack of Ukrainian nationalists? ;=)
I myself have much respect and admiration for Zelensky. He is a
great leader. he is a polar opposite to that man names Putin.
He is a professional actor, a professional clown, and he knows very well how to work with public. But exactly his unwillingness to solve the Dobbass problem for so many years and his policy towards the conflict escalation has led to the present day situation. Very much blood lies on the Zelensky hands.
Putin lied that he won't start a war. Lied for many months.
And now you are blaming Ukranians?
Don't tell me a fairy tale that the Ukrainians tell only the truth.
Who told you about chlorine? Russian TV?
The false canister with chlorine was in Syria and many bit it, and
Syria was bombed. Then reporters found all the actors of the story, "victims" including. Taking in account numerous accusations that
Russia uses chemicals to kill such a scenario is very likely and
expected.
I said again -- it is completely wrong to say that Russian media under
Putin control tells a lie only. I have already told you a Russian
saying "Strength is in the truth". Putin's propaganda is based on many
problem should begin from the time when violence started - the spring
of 2014.
I have to turn it off because I know it contains lies and I
don't want to travel that road.
Everything in this world contains lies. Do you remember a fucking
American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed? At
least Americans know how to lie very well. You can also remember how
they started war in Vietnam, also using a lie.
-- should they negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to them
or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their throats.
This winter Ukraine has built up a huge army group in Donbass and it
was obvious it was going to the latter scenario.
No, it is not Putin who started it. Al least, we should say that both
parties of the conflict carry their part of the responsibility. But nationalists-idiots were first.
That is what Ukrainian nationalists started to do in Ukraine.
Ukrainization?
Yes. Well, just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014 and the
Russian speaking population of its east and south. And one day the
power is captured by the people who issued the orders that Russian language is not state language any more, that at every office, bar,
schools should used Ukrainian. I said it before you that Ukraine since
20-th century has been historically divided in two parts. And to
preserve the peace the Kiev policy should be wise and balanced. But
what happened after 2014 can be called a national fascism.
PS: I don't deny that in today's Russia is a totalitarian society. So Russians in Ukraine have had a poor choice.
good reason. But surely it is obvious who triggered the
events. And I said it many times.
Putin.
Or maybe it was tongue-tied Yanukovich who could not explain understandably why he had postponed the association Ukraine with EU?
;-)
Here's a real fact and event. Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24
2022. It has since then attacked the country as a whole and done
vast amounts of damage and killed and injured many (I can't be sure
of the actual numbers). More than 3,300,000 refugees, 600,000
displaced people.
The above is truth, fact. How does that compare to what you get on
state media?
If you want to know the background of the event you must listen both
parties; what they say the reason and history of the conflict.
Not knowing it it is impossible to do adequate conclusions. The Donbass
siege (the core of the events) has been lasting for 8 years and
wonderfully there was no place for it in western media. To be exactly,
it repeated everything that Kiev claimed. Nobody paid attention to 14 thousand people killed in Donbass by Ukrainian troops etc. In short it
was and is a very serious problem, and people of Donbass have suffered greatly.
Doing this invasion Putin in many ways has discredited this suffering
and actually made Russians guilty everywhere, although it is the case.
So I repeat -- don't mix the problem of the civil war in Ukraine with
Putin and his thoughtless actions. The beginning the solving of the
problem should begin from the time when violence started - the spring of 2014.
Everything in this world contains lies.
Do you remember a fucking American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed? At least Americans know how to lie very well.
Did Zelensky create the problems in the Donbass?
Yes, of course.
I have already told you about great Ukrainian suffering,
on the verge of bloody diarrhea -- nor Poroshenko (was before Zelensky)
nor Zelensky could not decide what to do with Donbass -- should they negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to them or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their throats. This winter Ukraine
has built up a huge army group in Donbass and it was obvious it was
going to the latter scenario.
The blood for this war in on Putins hands and those military
leaders who started and continue the war.
No, it is not Putin who started it.
Al least, we should say that both parties of the conflict carry their part
of the responsibility. But nationalists-idiots were first.
This is fascism.
It's life.
Even in a kindergarten the relations between strong and weak
are similar. In addition, the word "fascism" everybody interprets as he wishes, often incorrectly. Fascism is when a small violent group wanted
to make people to do things they order, threatening with reprisals,
physical violence etc. All the opponents are labelled as enemies and
they are subjects for repressions or even elimination. That is what
Ukrainian nationalists started to do in Ukraine.
Ukrainization?
Yes. Well,
just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014 and the
Russian speaking population of its east and south. And one day the power
is captured by the people who issued the orders that Russian language is
not state language any more, that at every office, bar, schools should
used Ukrainian. I said it before you that Ukraine since 20-th century
has been historically divided in two parts. And to preserve the peace
the Kiev policy should be wise and balanced. But what happened after
2014 can be called a national fascism.
PS: I don't deny that in today's Russia is a totalitarian society. So Russians in Ukraine have had a poor choice.
It was not a lie, BTW. All investigation stories tells us that
US made a mistake and it was officially recognized. Putin will
never tell you he was wrong.
It was a Lie, at the Goebbels' level. As for an investigation, yea,
maybe in some time in Russia also will be some investigation. ;-)
War in Virtnam started long before americans were involded and
it wasn't a lie.
The matter is not in the Vietnam war, but in the American invasion and
its false, fabricated pretext.
It was impossible to do so because they were and still are under
direct control of Russia. They are just puppets. You do not talk
to puppets.
You are a strange person -- why Ukraine is not under EU control and
It was obvious that Russia will invade. For Baiden, not for me.
Putin was lying and Baiden ws not.
It's very probably that Putin's plan was ready two month ago before,
and Ukraine was perfectly aware of it. It was pretty much time to
I said it many times -- Crimea had fallen on Putin's head by itself,
it just had no other choice. Only nationalists in Kiev could be blamed that a whole Crimea population had done what they done. Putin just
sent some his green men for some help.
Russian language was not a state language in Ukraine, please
stop spreading fake information.
I meant a language law called the law "On the principles of the State language policy" gave the status of regional language to Russian and
other minority languages. It allowed the use of minority languages in courts, schools and other government institutions in areas of Ukraine
It was very logical, and it was crazy for nationalists to cancel the mentioned law in the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. It was as if Canadian Quebec would be restricted in using French.
Fake news again, current law allows use of Russian language.
You just don't know what you are speaking about:
In April 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted a new law, the Law on Supporting the Functioning of the Ukrainian Language as the State
Language [uk; ar]. On 16 June 2019, the law entered into force. The
law made the use of Ukrainian compulsory (totally or within certain quotas) in the work of some public authorities, in the electoral
Well, in my opinion it is totally incorrect, and I fully agree with
Mask about necessity for absolute freedom of information. Trying to be
objective, however, I can note that actions to block western media
are followed the same same actions towards the Russia state media. An information war in a full scale.
Russia is already under investigation by International Criminal
Court.
For instance the US, spat at this court long ago.
I have no time to search it in English, so that's a Russian resource
and the Google translator can easily translate it.
How it was fabricated? USA was sending aid to support South
Vietnam.
They had made a false attack on a American ship and used it as a
pretext to start the war.
Yes, it means that you can use Russian language but have to
provide the same level of service in Ukranian. As in Russia
right now. The same law.
Russia is not a bilingual country as Ukraine. It is not applicable to Russia.
Mask's Starlink is illegal in Russia.
Even with Russian internet VPN browsers help to get any information of
the Internet.
objective, however, I can note that actions to block
western media are followed the same same actions towards
the Russia state media. An information war in a full scale.
No, not a single website of Russian media is blocked in USA or
Belgium. Plese check you sources before such incorrect posts.
https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/rt-ban-roku-apple-directv
Some regions of Russia are bilingual (in some of them Russians
are minority) but language laws in Russia are very strict.
Russian is the only approved language for any official
communications.
Problems are differ from each other by their scale. Small problems
nobody notice.
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