On 3/06/2019 06:45, 2:203/2 wrote:
MvdV>> And you could have told me right away

How? If not the way I did it?

Are you doing a Ward now? Never publicly admit that you made a mistake?

When did Ward ever make a mistake?

He thought he was mistaken once - but he was wrong.

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Hello David,

On Monday June 03 2019 11:54, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Hmmm. I waded through a few pages. Then I gave up. It is 30
MvdV>> Celsius here. Too hot to spend much time behind the screen.

30C is "too hot"?

That was the temperature outside. Here in the room where my keyboard and screen are it was hotter.

To hot to argue with Bj"orn. ;-)

I spent some weeks this last (southern hemisphere) summer enjoying 44C
day after day.

30C is just balmy.

You are closer to the equator. Here at 52 degrees North, we are supposed to have a moderate climate. In my youth temperatures above 30C were rare. Now we see it more often, but it is still considere hot here. Out bodies are not tuned to it. 44C is (still) unheard of here.

You live near the tropics and are more used to it. Even ethogh here (the meteorological) summer has just started and you are at the start of winter.



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Hello Kees,

On Monday June 03 2019 11:33, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

Yep, 30C is just a pleasant day.:)

It was a nice spring day. Yesterday I returned from a three day
meeting with R24 Fidonutters. Almost the whole trip from Frankfurt
over Hannover to my place, the car thermometer indicated 33 deg C.

You were born in the tropics. You have cooling fluid in your blood. ;-)


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On 4/06/2019 06:30, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

30C is "too hot"?

MvdV> That was the temperature outside. Here in the room where my keyboard and
MvdV> screen are it was hotter.

MvdV> To hot to argue with Bj"orn. ;-)

True

I spent some weeks this last (southern hemisphere) summer enjoying 44C
day after day.

30C is just balmy.

MvdV> You are closer to the equator. Here at 52 degrees North, we are supposed
MvdV> to have a moderate climate.

I am at 25 degrees south, but we didn't see 44C here.

I was travelling and was visiting as far as 34 degrees south. I was somewhat inland (Cootamundra NSW) and it was a very dry atmosphere. Where I live is just 25km inland, it gets very humid which seems to hold the actual temperature down somewhat.

MvdV> In my youth temperatures above 30C were
MvdV> rare. Now we see it more often, but it is still considered hot here. Our
MvdV> bodies are not tuned to it. 44C is (still) unheard of here.

MvdV> You live near the tropics and are more used to it. Even though here (the
MvdV> meteorological) summer has just started and you are at the start of winter.

Yes, winter has started. I am seeing it down to 7C at night (nearly midday now and it's 16C).

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BF > Just asking, without really being interested...

I can not ask you to read only Dutch texts.

Oh, but you can. I can handle Dutch as well as I seem to remember that you do Swedish? 8-)



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Hello Michiel,

[..]

you unbelievable Thomas.

MvdV> "Doubting Thomas".

MvdV> You wil have to live with that. I am a scientist. I am educated
MvdV> (indoctrinated if you want) with the basic principle of never accepting
MvdV> something as fact just because someone says so.

MvdV> Every scientist should be a "doubting thomas".

After reading the gospel accounts (as given in the holy book),
it is clear that none of the apostles believed their beloved had
come back from the dead. All of them, including Thomas, had to
be shown.

To remove doubt would be to do without belief. Which would be
a travesty, because that is not the way the world works, or the
world beyond.

How can one know the facts without belief?

Belief in science (scientism) can be viewed as a very peculiar
modern form of autocratic religious zealotry. Wouldn't you agree?

Do you, as a scientist, consider yourself as being an autocratic
religious zealot? Many scientists consider themselves as being
masters of the universe. With only their own peculiar worldview
being the One True Religion.

In my view, every scientist should alter their own version of
reality to that of Non-Objective Reality. After all, nobody can
be truly objective, unless he/she is The One.

And also here:
<http://evelinsnel.com/cv>

MvdV> "Server not found".

"Body not found".

--Doubting Lee

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Hello Henri,

On Wednesday June 05 2019 01:34, you wrote to me:

you unbelievable Thomas.

MvdV>> "Doubting Thomas".

That may be, my English is not as good as that from mr. Timmermans.

Neither is mine, I do not practise enough. I had to get help from Google translate and Wikipedia. I knew that "unbelievable Thomas" wasn't right though. "unbelievable Thomas" would be "ongelofelijke Tomas", not "ongelovige Tomas".

MvdV>> You wil have to live with that. I am a scientist. I am educated
MvdV>> (indoctrinated if you want) with the basic principle of never
MvdV>> accepting something as fact just because someone says so.

Normallyn that is a good point of view.

Always a good starting point...

MvdV>> Every scientist should be a "doubting thomas".

Yes.

So we agree on that.

But in this case I was very sure,

So was Klaas Dijkstra when I met him in the mid sixties. I would not be surprised if there are still some followers of his around, but in the sixties we had an official "flat earth society". "platte aarde vereniging", in The Netherlands. Klaas Dijkstra was the chairman. We - the physics student society- once inivited him fo a lecture, very entertaining. ;-)

because I have seen that software tunning at de Acorn BBC computer of

Klaas Dijkstra also claimed he had seen for himself that the earth is flat. Having lived in Friesland myself, I am not all that suprised. It *does* look awfully flat there...

Sorry Henri, I was indoctrinated with: "never accept anything as fact just because someone says so". No exception for people who say they are very sure... :-)

Simon Voortman at the AcoNet Sysop Meeting in 1992 at his home in Ouddorp.ZH.NL.

OK...

And also here:
<http://evelinsnel.com/cv>

NvdV>> "Server not found".

Sorry, that should be: eveliensnel.com

Yeah, I got thet now...


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Hello Henri,

On Sunday June 02 2019 03:59, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> You have thrown up so many smoke screens by now

That's your coloured view.
I did not have the intention to hide something.

It was directed at Bj"orn (That is the correct spelling according to you, isn''t it?)

IIRC we were discussing the encoding to be used for Fidonews articles. Sidetracking into the question if there ever were Fidonet nodes running on 8 bit systems is just a smoke screen.

(S)he (Evelien) is still alive and kicking as you can see at her
website. You also know Simon Voortman. He can stand that he ran his
BBS at an Acorn BBC, including AcoNet, but I am unsure when he started being a member of FidoNet, or if he already changed his BBS to a 26
bit Acorn A5000 or Acorn RiscPC. He also used his R7500 for that task
some time. Now he uses a Linux system with Husky.

MvdV>> that I have lost track of whatever your point was.
MvdV>> Congratulations.

I'll send you some Dutch files to prove more.

Please don't. You have convinced met that there were Fidonet nodes running on an 8 bit systems. Can we now please let this smoke screen drift away?

I am not in the mood of spending much time behind the screen today. Summer has arrived....


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<http://eveliensnel.com/bbs>

MvdV> Hmmm. I waded through a few pages.

<http://evelinsnel.com/cv>

MvdV> "Server not found".

Since the first server obviously was found, can it be that the second link was misspelled and should be:

http://eveliensnel.com/bbs/

Just asking, without really being interested...



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Hello Bj”rn,

On Sunday June 02 2019 17:21, you wrote to me:

Since the first server obviously was found, can it be that
the second link was misspelled and should be:

http://eveliensnel.com/bbs/

I meant http://eveliensnel.com/cv/ obviously.

Nah. it was a temporay glitch. The link is working now.

A wild goose chase. There is nothing there regarding any Fidonet node (s)he supposedly ran. Somebody wasted my valuable time.


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-

And you should have been able to detect that, just as I did,

And you could have told me right away instead of wasting my time
over a spelling error.

Congratulations for once again winnig a pissing contest.

Why do you keep entering said contests with him?



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On 3/06/2019 00:51, Michiel van der Vlist -> Henri Derksen wrote:

Look here:
<http://eveliensnel.com/bbs>

MvdV> Hmmm. I waded through a few pages. Then I gave up. It is 30 Celsius
MvdV> here. Too hot to spend much time behind the screen.

30C is "too hot"?

I spent some weeks this last (southern hemisphere) summer enjoying 44C day after day.

30C is just balmy.

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David

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