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    From Vitold Sedyshev@2:5030/1081.102 to All on Thu Jan 20 12:16:32 2022
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 😀 grinning face
    2 U+1F603 😃 grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 😄 grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome 😀

    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Vitold Sedyshev on Thu Jan 20 14:42:38 2022
    On 20.1.2022 11.16, Vitold Sedyshev wrote:

    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 😀 grinning face
    2 U+1F603 😃 grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 😄 grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome 😀

    Looks fine in Thunderbird.

    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)

    'Tommi

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jan 20 17:59:37 2022
    Glad to see you, Tommi!

    On 20.1.2022 11.16, Vitold Sedyshev wrote:
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    Looks fine in Thunderbird.
    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: ६ ᯥ, 業, (2:5030/1081.102)
    'Tommi

    Displays perfectly in Telegram

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to John Dovey on Thu Jan 20 17:42:20 2022
    On 20 Jan 2022 16.59, John Dovey wrote:

    Glad to see you, Tommi!

    TK> On 20.1.2022 11.16, Vitold Sedyshev wrote:
    TK> > Hello,
    TK> >
    TK> > How about UTF-8 message notice here
    TK> >
    TK> > 1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    TK> > 2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    TK> > 3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    TK> >
    TK> > P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    TK> Looks fine in Thunderbird.
    TK> > Thanks.
    TK> >
    TK> > --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    TK> > * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)
    TK> 'Tommi

    Displays perfectly in Telegram

    But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/1.0)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6.52 to Vitold Sedyshev on Thu Jan 20 17:58:45 2022
    Hello, Vitold Sedyshev.
    On 20/01/2022 12.16 you wrote:

    Hello,
    How about UTF-8 message notice here
    1 U+1F600 😀 grinning face
    2 U+1F603 😃 grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 😄 grinning face with smiling eyes
    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome 😀
    Thanks.
    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)

    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screens1096_ndpkn07s.jpg


    And ok in HotDodEd too. ;)

    --
    'Tommi
    --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
    * Origin: .... ... .. . (2:221/6.52)
  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jan 20 22:02:17 2022
    Glad to see you, Tommi!

    On 20 Jan 2022 16.59, John Dovey wrote:
    Glad to see you, Tommi!

    TK> On 20.1.2022 11.16, Vitold Sedyshev wrote:
    TK> > Hello,
    TK> >
    TK> > How about UTF-8 message notice here
    TK> >
    TK> > 1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    TK> > 2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    TK> > 3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    TK> >
    TK> > P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    TK> Looks fine in Thunderbird.
    TK> > Thanks.
    TK> >
    TK> > --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    TK> > * Origin: ६ ᯥ, 業, (2:5030/1081.102)
    TK> 'Tommi

    Displays perfectly in Telegram
    But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(
    'Tommi


    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/image_2022-01-20_14-01-54.png


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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Thu Jan 20 22:05:14 2022
    Hi All...

    utf-8 it works nicely in the fido->telegram direction, but not back.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jan 20 22:05:18 2022
    Glad to see you, Tommi!

    Hello, Vitold Sedyshev.
    On 20/01/2022 12.16 you wrote:
    Hello,
    How about UTF-8 message notice here
    1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    Thanks.
    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: ६ ᯥ, 業, (2:5030/1081.102)
    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screens1096_ndpkn07s.jpg
    And ok in HotDodEd too. ;)
    --
    'Tommi


    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/image_2022-01-20_14-05-07.png


    *** [Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256]

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thu Jan 20 22:07:04 2022
    Glad to see you, August!

    utf-8 it works nicely in the fido->telegram direction, but not back.

    Clearly
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/image_2022-01-20_14-06-30.png


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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Thu Jan 20 22:11:09 2022
    Hi All...

    Isn't it just a matter of leaving the message content alone (unmodified) and using @chrs utf-8 instead of @chrs cp866?

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to August Abolins on Thu Jan 20 22:11:33 2022
    Glad to see you, August!

    Isn't it just a matter of leaving the message content alone (unmodified) and using @chrs utf-8 instead of @chrs cp866?

    I'm afraid I don't know.

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Vitold Sedyshev on Fri Jan 21 11:00:24 2022
    Hola Vitold!

    20 Jan 22 12:16, Vitold Sedyshev dijo a All:

    @MSGID: 2:5030/1081.102 5DEE7200
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @TID: Golden/Linux 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 ÛßØÀ grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ÛßØÁ grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 󧯀 grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ÛßØÀ

    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: áÂÀõüøÂõÁÌ ýõ ú ÁÁ¿õÅÁ, ð ú ÆõýýþÁÂÏü, úþÂþÀËõ þý ôðõ (2:5030/1081.102) SEEN-BY: 50/109 221/1 6 360 280/5555 301/1 335/364 341/66 460/58 463/68 SEEN-BY: 467/888 4500/1 5000/111 5001/100 5005/49 5019/40 5020/846 848 1042
    SEEN-BY: 5020/2047 2140 4441 12000 5030/1081 5054/8 5058/104 5060/900 5064/56
    SEEN-BY: 5080/102 5083/444
    @PATH: 5030/1081 5020/4441 1042 221/6

    It does not look very good for me

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.12 to Angel Ripoll on Fri Jan 21 17:05:26 2022
    Hello, Angel Ripoll.
    On 21/1/22 11:00 you wrote:

    It does not look very good for me

    GoldEd+ has a limited UTF-8 support that cannot currently include that kind of symbols.

    Check the same message with HotdogEd, looks ok.

    Carlos
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    * Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.12)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.5 to Vitold Sedyshev on Fri Jan 21 20:10:41 2022
    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 😀 grinning face
    2 U+1F603 😃 grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 😄 grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome 😀

    Looks fine in WinPoint too (with monochrome icons).

    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает
    (2:5030/1081.102)

    Cyrillic text looks fine too.

    Carlos

    --- WinPoint 394.0
    * Origin: Original *WinPoint* Origin (2:341/234.5)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Vitold Sedyshev on Sat Jan 22 16:03:40 2022
    Hi, Vitold!

    20 ﭢ 22 12:16, Vitold Sedyshev -> All:

    @MSGID: 2:5030/1081.102 5DEE7200
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @UUID: 56358748-394e-40f1-bc47-77a1ab91ec85
    @TID: Golden/Linux 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    Test failed. Messages in UTF-8 should be in those echo conferences where it is allowed.

    1 U+1F600 😀 grinning face
    2 U+1F603 😃 grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 😄 grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome 😀

    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)

    This is a violation of the standard. The ORIGIN string must be no longer than 79 characters.

    SEEN-BY: 50/109 221/1 6 360 280/464 5555 301/1 335/364 341/66 460/58
    256
    1124
    SEEN-BY: 460/5858 463/68 467/888 4500/1 4600/140 5000/111 5001/100 5005/49 SEEN-BY: 5019/40 5020/846 848 1042 2047 2140 4441 12000 5030/1081 5054/8 30
    SEEN-BY: 5058/104 5060/900 5064/56 5080/102 5083/444
    @PATH: 5030/1081 5020/4441 1042 221/6 460/58

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Vitold Sedyshev on Sat Jan 22 16:10:24 2022
    Hi, Vitold!

    Hello,
    How about UTF-8 message notice here
    1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    Thanks.


    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61ec023f.jpg


    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to John Dovey on Sat Jan 22 16:11:36 2022
    Hi, John!

    20 ﭢ 22 17:59, John Dovey -> Tommi Koivula:

    On 20.1.2022 11.16, Vitold Sedyshev wrote:
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes

    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    Looks fine in Thunderbird.
    Thanks.

    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: ६ ᯥ, 業,
    (2:5030/1081.102) 'Tommi

    This is a violation of the standard. The ORIGIN string must be no longer than 79 characters.

    Displays perfectly in Telegram

    Thank you. I'm trying to make it good. ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- 騭 ॢ, ⮬ , ᯮᮡ 騭.
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jan 22 16:15:42 2022
    Hi, Tommi!

    20 ﭢ 22 17:42, Tommi Koivula -> John Dovey:

    Displays perfectly in Telegram

    But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(

    Yes. That's the way it should be.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- ⪫뢠 - 㦥 ᥣ.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Brother Rabbit@2:460/256 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jan 22 16:18:36 2022
    Hi, Tommi!

    Hello, Vitold Sedyshev.
    On 20/01/2022 12.16 you wrote:
    Hello,
    How about UTF-8 message notice here
    1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    Thanks.
    --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    * Origin: ६ ᯥ, 業, (2:5030/1081.102)
    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screens1096_ndpkn07s.jpg
    And ok in HotDodEd too. ;)
    --
    'Tommi

    I wouldn't say it's all good. ;)
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61ec042b.jpg


    Have a nice carrot!
    Brother Rabbit.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 22 16:22:34 2022
    Hi, August!

    20 ﭢ 22 22:05, August Abolins -> All:

    utf-8 it works nicely in the fido->telegram direction, but not back.

    That's the way it should be. This will only work well in echo conferences that explicitly allow or recommend the use of UTF-8. In other echo conferences, we are required to maintain backward compatibility with 8-bit char software.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Jan 22 14:27:35 2022
    Hello Stas,

    On Saturday January 22 2022 16:22, you wrote to August Abolins:

    That's the way it should be. This will only work well in echo
    conferences that explicitly allow or recommend the use of UTF-8. In
    other echo conferences, we are required to maintain backward
    compatibility with 8-bit char software.

    As decreed by who?

    I would say it is the other way around. UTF-8 is allowed wherever it is not explicitly forbidden.

    FYI: UTF-8 /is/ backward compatible with 8-bit char software. Contrary to UTF-16 or UTF-32. That is why we can use UTF-8 in Fidonet en we can not use UTF-16 and UTF-32.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Zhenja Kaliuta@2:4500/1.59 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Jan 22 15:38:04 2022
    Hi, Stas!

    On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:03:40 +0300 Stas Mishchenkov writes:


    @MSGID: 2:5030/1081.102 5DEE7200
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    @UUID: 56358748-394e-40f1-bc47-77a1ab91ec85
    @TID: Golden/Linux 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    Hello,

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    Test failed. Messages in UTF-8 should be in those echo conferences where it is allowed.

    And why it's not allowed here with the proper CHRS?

    --- Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux)
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  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Jan 22 16:42:55 2022
    Hi Stas...

    Hi, August!
    20 ﭢ 22 22:05, August Abolins -> All:
    utf-8 it works nicely in the fido->telegram direction, but not back.
    That's the way it should be. This will only work well in echo conferences that explicitly allow or recommend the use of UTF-8. In other echo conferences, we are required to maintain backward compatibility with 8-bit char software.
    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    Good point! But it *is* doable, right? I believe we at least have the UTF-8 echo for that (testing) purpose? It seems more and more echos are open to accepting and processing @CHRS UTF-8 messages.

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Zhenja Kaliuta on Sat Jan 22 19:13:56 2022
    On 22.01.2022 15:38, Zhenja Kaliuta wrote:

    Test failed. Messages in UTF-8 should be in those echo conferences where it is allowed.

    And why it's not allowed here with the proper CHRS?

    It is.

    In this echo everything is allowed. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sat Jan 22 19:09:59 2022
    On 22.01.2022 15:15, Stas Mishchenkov wrote:

    Hi, Tommi!

    20 янв 22 17:42, Tommi Koivula -> John Dovey:

    >> Displays perfectly in Telegram

    TK> But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(

    Yes. That's the way it should be.

    I'd prefer UPPERCASE CP866.

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Brother Rabbit on Sat Jan 22 19:11:22 2022
    On 22.01.2022 15:18, Brother Rabbit wrote:

    Hi, Tommi!

    TK> Hello, Vitold Sedyshev.
    TK> On 20/01/2022 12.16 you wrote:
    VS>> Hello,
    VS>> How about UTF-8 message notice here
    VS>> 1 U+1F600 ? grinning face
    VS>> 2 U+1F603 ? grinning face with big eyes
    VS>> 3 U+1F604 ? grinning face with smiling eyes
    VS>> P.S. Another one warn is also welcome ?
    VS>> Thanks.
    VS>> --- Golden/Linux-amd64 1.2.18 2022-01-15 02:13 MSK (master)
    VS>> * Origin: Стремитесь не к успеху, а к ценностям, которые он дает (2:5030/1081.102)
    TK> http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screens1096_ndpkn07s.jpg
    TK> And ok in HotDodEd too. ;)
    TK> --
    TK> 'Tommi

    I wouldn't say it's all good. ;)
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/61ec042b.jpg

    In GoldED it is crap for sure. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to All on Sat Jan 22 22:22:21 2022
    Glad to see you, All!

    Porno Memes? Where do I sign up? ?

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Zhenja Kaliuta on Sun Jan 23 19:13:30 2022
    *** ⢥ ᮮ饭 _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi, Zhenja!

    22 ﭢ 22 15:38, Zhenja Kaliuta -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    How about UTF-8 message notice here

    Test failed. Messages in UTF-8 should be in those echo conferences where
    it is allowed.

    And why it's not allowed here with the proper CHRS?

    Okay. Let's go from the other side. Maybe I really just don't know something. Is there a way to force e.g. GoldEd to correctly display messages in UTF-8?

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Zhenja Kaliuta@2:4500/1.59 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Jan 23 18:42:58 2022
    Hi, Stas!

    On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 19:13:30 +0300 Stas Mishchenkov writes:

    How about UTF-8 message notice here
    Test failed. Messages in UTF-8 should be in those echo conferences where
    it is allowed.
    And why it's not allowed here with the proper CHRS?

    Okay. Let's go from the other side. Maybe I really just don't know something. Is there a way to force e.g. GoldEd to correctly display messages in UTF-8?

    Why GoldEd's problems should be others' problems?

    And yes, I bet it displays perfectly us-ascii part of UTF-8.

    I would rather ask why you push CP866 to the areas where cyrillic is unlikely expected?

    PS: I can see UTF-8 and even iconv mentioned in the sources.
    --- Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux)
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun Jan 23 19:27:29 2022
    23 Jan 2022 19:13, you wrote to Zhenja Kaliuta:

    Is there a way to force e.g. GoldEd to correctly display
    messages in UTF-8?

    Yes, at least for most accented and umlauted characters, n with tilde, c with cedilla and other necessary for languages based on the latin alphabet.

    ÁÉÍÓÚ áéíóú
    ÀÈÌÒÙ àèìòù
    ÄËÏÖÜ äëïöü
    ÂÊÎÔÛ âêîôû
    ñÑ çÇ ¿

    (The only one that cannot be translated when writing in Spanish is the opening exclamation mark.)

    See Michiel's article "Training Golded to play UTF-8 Part 2", FidoNews 37:18 (4 May 2020)

    It's about CP850 <-> UTF-8 translation, but it is possible for LATIN-1 <-> UTF-8 too.

    Carlos

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Sun Jan 23 19:35:02 2022
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday January 23 2022 19:27, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    See Michiel's article "Training Golded to play UTF-8 Part 2", FidoNews 37:18 (4 May 2020)

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf1.art http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf2.art


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jan 23 20:07:16 2022
    23 Jan 2022 19:35, you wrote to me:

    See Michiel's article "Training Golded to play UTF-8 Part 2",
    FidoNews
    37:18 (4 May 2020)

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf1.art http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf2.art

    I suggest that you specify, in every article in your site, which FN issue was published on (or at least the date)

    BTW, I think you didn't post these two useful articles to the GOLDED and UTF-8 echos, did you?

    Carlos

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Jan 24 00:09:59 2022
    Hello Carlos,

    On Sunday January 23 2022 20:07, you wrote to me:

    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf1.art
    http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidonews/myarticles/goldutf2.art

    I suggest that you specify, in every article in your site, which FN
    issue was published on (or at least the date)

    I will consider that for the next time.

    BTW, I think you didn't post these two useful articles to the GOLDED
    and UTF-8 echos, did you?

    I didn't.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to John Dovey on Mon Jan 24 08:25:02 2022
    Hi, John!

    22 ﭢ 22 22:22, John Dovey -> All:

    Porno Memes? Where do I sign up? ?

    https://t.me/Sexxxx_memes_Videos1_slivy ;)

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- 㬠, ⥬ ⥡ 諥.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 24 12:50:20 2022
    *** ⢥ ᮮ饭 _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi, Tommi!

    22 ﭢ 22 19:09, Tommi Koivula -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    TK> But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(

    Yes. That's the way it should be.

    I'd prefer UPPERCASE CP866.

    Yes. It's right.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- 堫 ⮫쪮 ᫠, ᢨ ⭠, 堫쭠 ୠ.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jan 24 10:51:00 2022
    Hello Tommi!

    *** Saturday 22.01.22 at 19:09, Tommi Koivula wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    Displays perfectly in Telegram

    TK> But not anymore, you replied with "@CHRS: cp866 2" :(

    Yes. That's the way it should be.

    I'd prefer UPPERCASE CP866.

    Yeah, so would I because although WinPoint supports CP866, it reports
    cp866 as an unsupported charset.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Flavio on Mon Feb 14 15:50:20 2022
    Hi Flavio,

    On 2022-02-14 17:38:38, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 2:460/256 000009fe
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.7.1
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: cp866 2
    @TGUID: 103991006
    @REPLYTO 2:460/256 103991006
    @RealName: FLAVIO BESSA 4:801/188
    test
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
    SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 203/0 221/0 6 240/5832 280/464 SEEN-BY: 280/5003 5555 292/854 8125 301/1 310/31 341/234 396/45 423/120 SEEN-BY: 460/58 256 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 2452/250 4600/140 5054/30 @PATH: 460/256 58 280/464

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Flavio@2:460/256 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Feb 14 17:52:39 2022
    Hi Flavio,
    On 2022-02-14 17:38:38, you wrote to All:
    @MSGID: 2:460/256 000009fe
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.7.1
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: cp866 2
    @TGUID: 103991006
    @REPLYTO 2:460/256 103991006
    @RealName: FLAVIO BESSA 4:801/188
    test
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
    SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 203/0 221/0 6 240/5832 280/464
    SEEN-BY: 280/5003 5555 292/854 8125 301/1 310/31 341/234 396/45 423/120
    SEEN-BY: 460/58 256 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 2452/250 4600/140 5054/30
    @PATH: 460/256 58 280/464
    Bye, Wilfred.

    Thanks!
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Flavio on Mon Feb 14 18:05:42 2022
    Hi, Flavio!

    14 䥢 22 17:38, Flavio -> All:

    @MSGID: 2:460/256 000009fe
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.7.1
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: cp866 2
    @TGUID: 103991006
    @REPLYTO 2:460/256 103991006
    @RealName: FLAVIO BESSA 4:801/188
    test

    CU

    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
    SEEN-BY: 221/6 280/464 5555 301/1 460/58 256 1124 5858 4600/140 5054/30 @PATH: 460/256 58

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- 宣 ᮢ, 襣 ࠧ.
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Flavio on Mon Feb 14 11:20:38 2022
    On 2022 Feb 14 17:38:38, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 2:460/256 000009fe
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.7.1
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: cp866 2
    @TGUID: 103991006
    @REPLYTO 2:460/256 103991006
    @RealName: FLAVIO BESSA 4:801/188
    test
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
    SEEN-BY: 50/109 221/1 6 280/464 5555 301/1 335/364 341/66 460/58 256 1124 5858
    SEEN-BY: 463/68 467/888 3634/12 4500/1 4600/140 5000/111 5001/100 5005/49 SEEN-BY: 5019/40 5020/846 1042 2047 2140 4441 5054/8 30 5058/104 5064/56 SEEN-BY: 5080/102 5083/444 5090/958 116/116 123/25 755 135/300 153/7715 154/10
    SEEN-BY: 3634/15 24 27 50 119 640/1384 123/115 160 180 299/6 123/200 222/2 SEEN-BY: 250/1 240/1120 261/1466 640/1321 275/1000 14/5 3634/12 0 18/0 123/0
    SEEN-BY: 1/120
    @PATH: 460/256 58 221/6 5020/1042 3634/12



    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... Never take a beer to a job interview.
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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Flavio on Mon Feb 14 21:04:39 2022
    Hello Flavio,

    14 Feb 22 17:38, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 2:460/256 000009fe
    @PID: tg_BBS_v0.7.1
    @TZUTC: 0300
    @CHRS: cp866 2
    @TGUID: 103991006
    @REPLYTO 2:460/256 103991006
    @RealName: FLAVIO BESSA 4:801/188
    test
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
    SEEN-BY: 31/99 124 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6
    240/1120
    SEEN-BY: 240/1634 1895 5832 8002 8005 280/464 5003 5555 291/100
    292/854 8125
    SEEN-BY: 301/1 310/31 313/41 335/364 341/234 371/0 52 380/5 382/147
    396/45
    SEEN-BY: 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 2452/250 3634/12 4600/140
    SEEN-BY: 5054/30
    @PATH: 460/256 58 280/464 310/31 313/41 240/1120 371/0

    Regards,
    --
    dp

    telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

    ... 10:58pm up 3 days, 4:20:59, load: 72 processes, 275 threads.
    --- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
    * Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to Flavio on Wed Feb 16 14:57:00 2022
    test

    It made it to Arkansas.

    Daryl

    ... A guy who's addicted to brake fluid can stop any time.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)
  • From John Dovey@2:460/256 to All on Thu Apr 21 01:10:30 2022
    Glad to see you, All!

    Forward from: John Dovey Firecat

    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/626084d4.jpg


    *** [Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256]

    ... Tag, you are IT!
    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/256 to All on Fri Apr 29 16:28:21 2022
    Hi All...


    File: 626be68c.
    Error: 500 Can't connect to api.telegram.org:443

    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Fri Apr 29 17:41:34 2022
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 29/04/2022 16.28 you wrote:

    Hi All...
    File: 626be68c.
    Error: 500 Can't connect to api.telegram.org:443
    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

    Prego!

    --- HotdogEd/2.13.5 (Android; Google Android; rv:1) Hotdoged/1646645405000 HotdogEd/2.13.5
    * Origin: rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Tommi Koivula on Fri Apr 29 18:21:00 2022
    Hello Tommi Koivula!

    ** On Friday 29.04.22 - 17:41, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 29/04/2022 16.28 you wrote:

    Hi All...
    File: 626be68c.
    Error: 500 Can't connect to api.telegram.org:443
    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

    Prego!

    That's ok. The file/pic wasn't meant to be post here anyway.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters --> . <-- (1:153/757.21)
  • From John Dovey Firecat@2:460/256 to All on Fri Jun 24 17:26:08 2022
    https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/62b5c942.jpg

    --- tg BBS v0.7.1
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256)
  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 18 22:53:58 2022
    Hello Tommi Koivula!


    ** On Friday 29.04.22 - 17:41, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 29/04/2022 16.28 you wrote:

    Hi All...
    File: 626be68c.
    Error: 500 Can't connect to api.telegram.org:443
    Ciao!
    /|ug (https://t.me/aabolins)

    Prego!


    That's ok. The file/pic wasn't meant to be post here anyway.


    --

    ../|ug


    --- OpenXP 5.0.51

    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters --> . <-- (1:153/757.21)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.1 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 19 09:37:13 2022
    18 Nov 2022 22:53, you wrote to you:

    Just testing reply to an OpenXP message and see the quote+CR problem arises with this older version Aftershock

    This one has "broken" quotes.

    I think it happens with all Aftershock versions. I tested with 1.6.8 and 1.6.11

    Carlos

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: cyberiada point (2:341/234.1)