Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
as an editor or basic/general notes?



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17 Jul 23 20:26:14 Chad Adams (1:19/40) wrote:

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Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
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Hi Chad,

On 2023-07-17 20:26:14, you wrote to ALL:

@MSGID: 44.fidonet.test_echo@1:19/40 04156BD0

Your MSGID is not conform to http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0009.001

@PID: CyberBBS v1.0.11
@TID: ctoss/1.0.11
@TZUTC: -0500

Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things
such as an editor or basic/general notes?

An editor that creates a message can use a PID kludge. I don't think there is a standard for a general notes tag name. So you can make up your own. But before you have your software add such a thing to every message it creates, you should ask yourself what use it is to other systems, to have this information in every message. Kludge lines are not meant for human consumption, most readers don't even see them...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Question on kludge
By: Chad Adams to ALL on Mon Jul 17 2023 08:26 pm

Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
as an editor or basic/general notes?

The FTN kludge (control paragraph) used for message editor/version is called "NOTE". FTSC_PUBLIC would be a better echo to ask such questions though.
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Re: Re: Question on kludge
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Chad Adams on Tue Jul 18 2023 10:56 am

@MSGID: 44.fidonet.test_echo@1:19/40 04156BD0

Your MSGID is not conform to http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0009.001

Sure it does. https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#ftn_msgid
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This Is Spinal Tap quote #19:
Oh then, maybe it's not green. Anyway this is what I sleep in sometimes.
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Hi Rob,

On 2023-07-23 13:47:37, you wrote to Chad Adams:

Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
as an editor or basic/general notes?

The FTN kludge (control paragraph) used for message editor/version is called "NOTE". FTSC_PUBLIC would be a better echo to ask such questions though.

I suppose that is a Synchronet extension? No where is it documented by the FTSC...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Re: Question on kludge
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Rob Swindell on Sun Jul 23 2023 10:55 pm

Hi Rob,

On 2023-07-23 13:47:37, you wrote to Chad Adams:

Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
as an editor or basic/general notes?

The FTN kludge (control paragraph) used for message editor/version is called "NOTE". FTSC_PUBLIC would be a better echo to ask such questions though.

I suppose that is a Synchronet extension? No where is it documented by the FTSC...

SBBSecho will add the kludge, but Synchronet/SBBSecho didn't introduce it. I first saw the NOTE kludge used in this way with external message editors such as QuikEdit and DCTEdit.
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digital man (rob)

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #57:
NUP = New User Password
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Re: Re: Question on kludge
By: Rob Swindell to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Jul 23 2023 02:09 pm

Re: Re: Question on kludge
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Rob Swindell on Sun Jul 23 2023 10:55 pm

Hi Rob,

On 2023-07-23 13:47:37, you wrote to Chad Adams:

Does anyone know the kludge name that can be used to notate things such
as an editor or basic/general notes?

The FTN kludge (control paragraph) used for message editor/version is called "NOTE". FTSC_PUBLIC would be a better echo to ask such questions though.

I suppose that is a Synchronet extension? No where is it documented by the FTSC...

SBBSecho will add the kludge, but Synchronet/SBBSecho didn't introduce it. I first saw the NOTE kludge used in this way with external message editors such as QuikEdit and DCTEdit.

Here are some recent examples (not created by Synchronet/SBBSecho):

X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: DCTEdit v0.04 [9]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.40 36164
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.40 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.75 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.30 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 B67063
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 [Eval] [157]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.40
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.41 [Eval] [12] a24405
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.41R a12755
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.01 [UNREGISTERED]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.10 #22
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.11
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Hi Rob,

On 2023-07-23 13:48:57, you wrote to me:

@MSGID: 44.fidonet.test_echo@1:19/40 04156BD0

Your MSGID is not conform to http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0009.001

Sure it does. https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#ftn_msgid

That mostly explains why synchronet does it differently. I think those reasons are debatable. But you are also right the standard says "should" and not "must"...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Rob,

On 2023-07-23 15:29:53, you wrote to me:

The FTN kludge (control paragraph) used for message

editor/version

is called "NOTE". FTSC_PUBLIC would be a better echo to ask such
questions though.

I suppose that is a Synchronet extension? No where is it documented

by

the FTSC...

SBBSecho will add the kludge, but Synchronet/SBBSecho didn't introduce
it. I first saw the NOTE kludge used in this way with external message
editors such as QuikEdit and DCTEdit.

Here are some recent examples (not created by Synchronet/SBBSecho):

X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: DCTEdit v0.04 [9]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.40 36164
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.40 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 1.75 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.30 [Eval]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 B67063
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 [Eval] [157]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.40
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.41 [Eval] [12] a24405
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: QuikEdit 2.41R a12755
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.01 [UNREGISTERED]
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.10 #22
X-FTN-Kludge NOTE: TIDE 1.11

So someone should write a ftsc proposal for this kludge. Aren't you a ftsc member? ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Re: Re: Question on kludge
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Rob Swindell on Tue Jul 25 2023 03:07 pm

So someone should write a ftsc proposal for this kludge. Aren't you a ftsc member? ;-)

Yup, agreed.
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