Hi All!

Is there a setting in GoldED to enable the *bold* /italic/ and _underline_ views?






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Hi, August!

15 ®ªâ 20 14:57, August Abolins -> All:

Is there a setting in GoldED to enable the *bold* /italic/ and
_underline_ views?

Yes. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/2020-10-15_19-07-54.png

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas!

15 Oct 20 19:09, you wrote to me:

Yes. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/2020-10-15_19-07-54.png

I had a feeling that I would get that one-word answer. LOL

Is the change required in the username.CFG file? If so, what do those lines look like in your file?



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Hi, August!

15 ®ªâ 20 18:29, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Yes. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/files/2020-10-15_19-07-54.png

I had a feeling that I would get that one-word answer. LOL

Is the change required in the username.CFG file? If so, what do those lines look like in your file?

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

If enabled (yes or hide), GoldED will highlight text surrounded by
one of the following characters in a different color: '*' for bold
text, '/' for italic text, '_' for underlined text and '#' for
reversed text. These are commonly used "stylecodes" which add
emphasis to the text, without making it harder to read. Examples:
*This* will be shown in bold color, /this/ in italic color and
_this_ in underlined color. It is also possible to combine styles,
such as */this/*, in bolditalic color.

The differ in yes and hide is that hide strips surrounding
stylecodes.

To define the highlight colors, use COLOR STYLECODE. See the color
chapter for details.


STYLECODEPUNCT <"charlist"> (" !\"$%&()+,.:;<=>@[\]^`{|}~")
STYLECODESTOPS <"charlist"> ("")

The STYLECODEPUNCT keyword specifies all the characters that
punctuates words. The stylecode line parser scans forward until it
meets one of these characters and then looks back to see if it
found a word with stylecodes around it.

The STYLECODESTOPS keyword specifies characters which, if found
within the word to be highlighted, causes the highlight to be
cancelled.

These keywords were added to allow users to experiment with the
characters for punctuation and stop for stylecode sequences. This
is mostly to illustrate the point that it is almost impossible to
make stylecodes work in every case you want without getting a lot
of false highlights too. Please keep in mind that stylecodes are,
and always will be, a primitive and very error-prone method for
adding highlights to message text. The defaults are:

STYLECODEPUNCT " !\"$%&()+,.:;<=>@[\]^`{|}~"
STYLECODESTOPS ""

Note that the double-quote (") must have the backslash (\) in
front of it - the sequence (\") is translated to a single (").



Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello August!

*** Thursday 15.10.20 at 18:29, August Abolins wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

[snip]

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Regards,
Martin

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Hi Martin!

17 Oct 20 11:00, you wrote to me:

[snip]

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.


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Hi Martin!

17 Oct 20 14:34, I wrote to you:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.

I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES

It did not work. :(


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Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?

digital man

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Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by
GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd
and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have
been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?

I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Paul Quinn to Rob Swindell on Sun Oct 18 2020 06:34 am

Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?

I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus. Thanks again!

digital man

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Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 07:33 AM, you wrote:

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus.

I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)

Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about SemPoint.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi Paul!

18 Oct 20 08:14, you wrote to Rob Swindell:

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit
Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could
read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text"

[snip]

I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out
a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)

Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about
SemPoint.

Sempoint is a fine performer on my XP machine. Pity is more aptly directed to the lack of "16bit" support in recent Windows versions.

I don't think there is any modern equivalent to Sempoint's ability to toss QWK content into Squish message bases, and not be limited to reading and replying to just one QWK file at a time.

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I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES

It did not work. :(

I have STYLECODES commented out in my golded.cfg and I see certain words in white when regular text is lgrey, so these syslized words stand out.

I think they are enabled unless you use "STYLECODES NO" in your config. "STYLECODES HIDE" is another option that I think strips the / or * from the text.

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On 10-18-20 08:14, Paul Quinn wrote to Rob Swindell <=-

I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out
a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)

16 bit Windows apps aren't so hard to handle. WineVDM runs them perfectly and seamlessly on 64 bit Windows. I have SemPoint installed here. It works, liked the concept, though I stuck with Multimail in the end.

Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about SemPoint.

It runs perfectly with WineVDM. :)

Wonder if it'd run under WINE on Linux. :)


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On 10-18-20 02:55, August Abolins wrote to Paul Quinn <=-

Sempoint is a fine performer on my XP machine. Pity is more aptly
directed to the lack of "16bit" support in recent Windows versions.

As I said to Paul, not a big issue, WineVDM solves this issue nicely for 64 bit Windows. :) I've run SemPoint under Windows 10 64 bit.


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Hello August!

*** Saturday 17.10.20 at 14:34, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure?

Yes :)

We *can* open username.CFG for editing.

I may have worded my original reply badly because I assumed that you
were referring to your personal copy of golded.cfg when you said "username.CFG". The change(s) is/are required to be made to your
personal copy of *golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor
write access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the
changes.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

*** Saturday 17.10.20 at 16:54, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.

I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES

It did not work. :(

See my previous message.

Regards,
Martin

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On 18/10/2020 4:23 a.m., Martin Foster : August Abolins wrote:

...The change(s) is
/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write
access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the
changes.

Noted. B, U, I ...not a critical thing to have. Just wondered, it
would be nice for the "complete" experience.

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Hi Alan!

17 Oct 20 18:57, you wrote to me:

I think they are enabled unless you use "STYLECODES NO" in your
config. "STYLECODES HIDE" is another option that I think strips the /
or * from the text.

Thanks for that info. Maybe Thomas can comment.


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Hello Martin!

18 Oct 20, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of *golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded on a remote machine?

Regards

Kai

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Hi Kai!

21 Oct 20 13:11, you wrote to Martin Foster:

The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access
to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded
on a remote machine?

Veleno offers point access via what appears to be Windows RDP.


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Hello Kai!

*** Wednesday 21.10.20 at 13:11, Kai Richter wrote to Martin Foster:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of
*golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access to,
that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded on a remote machine?

This is what it is .....

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: Web Point Veleno BBS
Date: 04 Feb 20 12:54
From: Thomas Bampi@2:333/808
To: All
Original Area: POINTS
MessageID: 2:333/808 5e395ba7
---------------------------------------

Hello All!

after a few hours of work I managed to create a point system via the web
(your browser must load HTML5 pages) without the user configuring the
various software to access the system!

The Point Web system of Veleno BBS will allow you to read, write, reply,
etc ... in the various echo areas and also in netmail without you having
to go crazy to configure any type of software. A menu will help you to
add, remove, rescan areas in a fully automatic mode SIMPLY USING YOUR
INTERNET BROWSER THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY USING TO NAVIGATE.

If you want more information or if you want to try this innovative system,
just leave me a netmail at 2: 333 / 808.1 (Thomas Bampi) or an email to krueger@velenobbs.net


''~``
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| Thomas Bampi |
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| |
| .oooO |
| ( ) Oooo. |
+---------------------\ (----( )--------------------+
\_) ) /
(_/

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# Origin: ----> VeleNo BBs (http://velenobbs.net) <---- (2:333/808)
+ Origin: Veleno BBS -= http://www.velenobbs.net =- (2:333/808) -------------------- End --------------------

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

21 Oct 20, August Abolins wrote to Kai Richter:

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use
golded on a remote machine?

Veleno offers point access via what appears to be Windows RDP.

Remote DP, your environment is under control of your boss. A special config structure is required to get golded into a multi-user config. I think it works with "include" keywords for easy handling of global and user specific configuration. Depending on the "include" sequence it may be possible that valid keywords are overwritten again. I think your boss is the only one who can help you to get style codes active.

Did anybody said already that the golded stylecodes are just a colorization of the normal text? You don't get bold or underlined text. It's just highlighting the text with a different color.

Regards

Kai

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Hi Kai!

22 Oct 20 12:59, you wrote to me:

Remote DP, your environment is under control of your boss. A special config structure is required to get golded into a multi-user config..

Yup.. it is very special indeed. Seems to work very well.

Did anybody said already that the golded stylecodes are just a colorization of the normal text? You don't get bold or underlined
text. It's just highlighting the text with a different color.

I am fine with that operation. I'd just like to see it work if it can.


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Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Rob Swindell to Paul Quinn on Sat Oct 17 2020 02:33 pm

Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Paul Quinn to Rob Swindell on Sun Oct 18 2020 06:34 am

Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?

I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus. Thanks again!

The version of Synchronet now in development now has support for message Markup, in the same veign as GoldEd's StyleCodes, with exceptions:
- no combining/nesting of styles
- the parsing rules are not configurable as they are with GoldEd+

It's a sysop "opt-in" feature in sbbs v3.18c (per message area), but I'll likely make it the default for newly created/added sub-boards in the future once the feature is sufficiently tested.

Here's a sample of what it looks like when using SyncTERM and custom fonts: https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQvOhXPHfQo0mI4N5_jg?e=wjy6qa
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Hi! Rob,

On 11/03/2020 04:49 AM, you wrote:

The version of Synchronet now in development now has support for message Markup, in the same veign as GoldEd's StyleCodes, with exceptions:
- no combining/nesting of styles
- the parsing rules are not configurable as they are with GoldEd+

Thank you. I'll tell August Abolins when I next see him. He was the original enquirer. Thank you.

(But, frankly, I've given up on a solution to the quandary between BBS packages. Your star performance on EwwToob swayed me for a bit but I have set off in a tangential direction, two months back.)

It's a sysop "opt-in" feature in sbbs v3.18c (per message area), but
I'll likely make it the default for newly created/added sub-boards in
the future once the feature is sufficiently tested.

Here's a sample of what it looks like when using SyncTERM and custom fonts:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQvOhXPHfQo0mI4N5_jg?e=wjy6qa

My attention was immediately drawn to the 'underline' sample It's a 60s thing. It looks like a crazy OCR-A lowercase. Groovy.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Paul Quinn to Rob Swindell on Tue Nov 03 2020 08:32 am

Hi! Rob,

On 11/03/2020 04:49 AM, you wrote:

The version of Synchronet now in development now has support for message Markup, in the same veign as GoldEd's StyleCodes, with exceptions:
- no combining/nesting of styles
- the parsing rules are not configurable as they are with GoldEd+

Thank you. I'll tell August Abolins when I next see him. He was the original enquirer. Thank you.

(But, frankly, I've given up on a solution to the quandary between BBS packages. Your star performance on EwwToob swayed me for a bit but I have set off in a tangential direction, two months back.)

Okay, no problem. I think it's a cool feature and it'd nice if more BBS packages and offline readers supported a compatible markup.

It's a sysop "opt-in" feature in sbbs v3.18c (per message area), but I'll likely make it the default for newly created/added sub-boards in the future once the feature is sufficiently tested.

Here's a sample of what it looks like when using SyncTERM and custom fonts:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQvOhXPHfQo0mI4N5_jg?e=wjy6qa

My attention was immediately drawn to the 'underline' sample It's a 60s thing. It looks like a crazy OCR-A lowercase. Groovy.

Yeah, until such time as we have a BBS terminal that actually support italics and underlined text, it's the best I can do. :-)
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Hi! Rob,

On 02 Nov 2020, Rob Swindell said the following...

thing. It looks like a crazy OCR-A lowercase. Groovy.

Yeah, until such time as we have a BBS terminal that actually support italics and underlined text, it's the best I can do. :-)

Further steps will probably require a further integration of Fidonet into the collection of internets.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Rob!

02 Nov 20, Rob Swindell wrote to Paul Quinn:

Okay, no problem. I think it's a cool feature and it'd nice if more
BBS packages and offline readers supported a compatible markup.

What for? I don't _see_ the difference between an underlined and low dash tagged word within ascii universe networks like Fidonet. Basically there is not much need for markups. Look around in typical common media, bold italic and underline markups are used very rarely because there is no significant change of the content - a no is still a no and a _no_ is more no than no - or a dead is more than _dead_ and a _faster_ is still more than fast and much more faster than faster?

The one useful markup for quotes is italic and that function is already covered by the > sign at the beginning of a quoted line.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Paul!

03 Nov 20, Paul Quinn wrote to Rob Swindell:

Further steps will probably require a further integration of Fidonet
into the collection of internets.

?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.

Regards

Kai

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Hi! Kai,

On 04 Nov 20 08:31, you wrote to me:

Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.

?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to upgrade
your software and find an access point. You will have full markup
support, real bold italic and underline is no problem, you could
integrate pictures, audio and video into your postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'? It is one example.

My favourite interface is NNTP.

See what I mean(t)?

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Paul!

04 Nov 20, Paul Quinn wrote to Kai Richter:

Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.

?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to
upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have
full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no
problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your
postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. Intimating fails due to translation. Sorry.

My favourite interface is NNTP.

See what I mean(t)?

No. Just update your software to get all new features. Due to age-, support- and licence-reasons it will be impossible to integrate new stuff into mostly all fidonet software. There is a high risk that any new feature will break older existing systems (For example, some multibyte chars will trash my terminal output completely). If you want features like real bold, italic or underlined text, or the possibility to display any language symbol in its original form, want to use pictures, audio or video, or links to other postings, then upgrade to the new protocols.

If you could do internet and fidonet integration, where will be the difference then? It will be a part of the bigger thing and it will lose it's identity.

If you got a working integration then you could use both protocols within one software. But if your software could do HTML5 tagged text why should you change back to ascii if any other software can read HTML5 due to full integration? There is none, the users will be too lazy to switch back to the old standard, never change a running setting. The result would be that the old standard became obsolete completely. That's why an integration of fidonet into internets will be a wasted efford.

And uhh, sorry for offtopic.

Regards

Kai

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Hi! Kai,

On 04 Nov 2020, Kai Richter said the following...

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. Intimating fails due to translation. Sorry.

An example for just _one_ echo (of many): Asian-Link (IIRC). Look for
traffic by my friend in the Crimea (initiator of 'telegrams' use) and August Abolins. Telegram traffic is between Fidonet anything and (currently)
SMS-like texting on Android mobiles & tablets.

KR> And uhh, sorry for offtopic. KR>

Yes, there is that too. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello Kai!

*** Wednesday 04.11.20 at 17:28, Kai Richter wrote to Paul Quinn:

Further steps will probably require a further integration of
Fidonet into the collection of internets.

?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to
upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have
full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no
problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your
postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context.

I think he was referring to the Telegram Messenger -> <- Fidonet gateway.

Regards,
Martin

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Hi! Martin,

On 05 Nov 2020, Martin Foster said the following...

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context.

I think he was referring to the Telegram Messenger -> <- Fidonet gateway.

Yes. Extrapolate the logic by excising the gateway and you get an Android Fidonet. Sounds like fun, I'm sure.

I like a technical evolution like anyone but it needs a limit or an horizon of sorts. At the momemt, telegraphing looks great but I worry at where it will end. (I was 'chanelling' an imaginary person of the 1870s? thinking similar
of the original telegraphy.) I like my GoldEd (& NNTP), oh and BBSs. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hello, Paul Quinn -> Martin Foster.
On 11/5/20 6:54 AM you wrote:

Hi! Martin, On 05 Nov 2020, Martin Foster said the following... MF>

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. MF> I

think he was referring to the Telegram Messenger -> <- Fidonet
gateway. Yes. Extrapolate the logic by excising the gateway and you
get an Android Fidonet. Sounds like fun, I'm sure.

It is another potential way to access at least some of Fidonet when you
are away from your main computer or however you access it.

I like a technical evolution like anyone but it needs a limit or an
horizon of sorts. At the momemt, telegraphing looks great but I
worry at where it will end. (I was 'chanelling' an imaginary person
of the 1870s? thinking similar of the original telegraphy.) I like
my GoldEd (& NNTP), oh and BBSs. :)

As far as I've seen, it's not going anywhere more than how it currently operates. Much the same as a node or point does.

I prefer the points or BBSs as well, but unfortunately, for the time
being, Point software for Android is limited.

Now, if some better point software like GoldEd was available for Android
......

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