• book: windows 7 networking ?

    From August Abolins@2:221/360 to All on Fri Nov 6 18:52:47 2020
    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking
    that they have used personally and found it to be ideal for solving
    complex problems?




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  • From Charles Pierson@2:221/6.21 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 6 11:17:33 2020
    Hello, August Abolins.
    On 11/6/20 6:52 PM you wrote:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking
    that they have used personally and found it to be ideal for
    solving complex problems?

    One or more of the "For Dummies" titles?

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Charles Pierson on Fri Nov 6 20:51:11 2020
    On 06/11/2020 4:17 a.m., Charles Pierson : August Abolins wrote:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking..

    One or more of the "For Dummies" titles?

    The networking chapters in those are very scant and dumbed down
    (obviously!) :)

    I am looking for someting comprehensive, and therefore a book that
    JUST deals with networking that OS.

    Would one of those MSCE (whatever) exam books on networking provide
    real answers - or too much theory?


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Fri Nov 6 18:32:03 2020
    On 06 Nov 20 18:52:47, August Abolins said the following to All:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking
    that they have used personally and found it to be ideal for solving
    complex problems?

    Google.

    Nick

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Nick Andre on Sat Nov 7 19:18:02 2020
    On 06/11/2020 6:32 p.m., Nick Andre : August Abolins wrote:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking

    Google.

    If it was my network, I would certainly dig around the 'net a little
    while for solutions.

    This is for a fellow new to networking (lucky fellow picked in lieu
    of hiring an expensive networking guy) at this covid moment.

    I do not know if there is a particular problem afoot or if there is
    an expansion/adjustment in mind. All I know is that the PCs are Win7.

    A book format would also serve as a way to study offline and not be
    forced to be glued to a PC - I guess.


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 7 16:39:10 2020
    On 07 Nov 20 19:18:02, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

    Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking

    Google.

    If it was my network, I would certainly dig around the 'net a little
    while for solutions.

    Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about networking and some other things the "hard way".

    Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a network on your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

    Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it so your challenge is now to fix it.

    You can study all the books you want but the best learning is always hands-on.

    I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something. I *will* fix *any* tech problem. If I cannot, I will find someone who can. That simple...

    Nick

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  • From Charles Pierson@2:221/6.21 to Nick Andre on Sat Nov 7 16:51:28 2020
    Hello, Nick Andre.
    On 11/7/20 4:39 PM you wrote:

    Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about
    networking and some other things the "hard way". Sometimes its
    best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a network
    on your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make
    it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.
    Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and
    screw it so your challenge is now to fix it.

    That's pretty much been my philosophy with computers and software in general. I haven't done much with networking though.

    You can study all the books you want but the best learning is
    always hands-on.

    It depends. I've had people that you walk through it, some I've had to find documentation for.

    I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging
    me and assuming that I cannot do something. I *will* fix *any*
    tech problem. If I cannot, I will find someone who can. That
    simple...

    I mainly challenge myself. I'll get it to work. I might end up frying something or a fatal system crash down the line, but I will figure out something to make it work at least once.

    Needless to say, the wife has banned me from such tests on the home pc.


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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Nick Andre on Mon Nov 9 18:22:15 2020
    On 07 Nov 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

    Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about
    networking and some other things the "hard way".

    Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a networkon your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

    I'm the same way. Had to do all the book work for class, but I really
    learned doing everything in the hands-on labs in school and then going home and trying it all again there either via packet tracer or some cheap stuff I got on ebay or kijiji.

    Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it
    so your challenge is now to fix it.

    Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

    I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something.

    I'm picturing John Locke in Lost yelling at people: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"

    Jay

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 9 18:40:15 2020
    On 09 Nov 20 18:22:15, Jay Harris said the following to Nick Andre:

    Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

    I was very, very lucky to work with what can only be described as
    total assholes over the years. Not sure what it was about them but aside
    from their personalities they were spot-on correct with troubleshooting 101. Start simple and work up from there. And if you cannot fix it, you either figure it out until its fixed, or you find someone else that can... there is no such thing as a no-fix scenario.

    Thats what they never really teach in tech classes as far as I can tell. They teach all the theory and components and thats fine but they do not teach you how to deal with being thrown into the lion's den. Stuff like inheriting a total freaking mess from the previous IT manager or the foundations of a network not designed correctly or all the software licensing poorly accounted for... or my favourite, major investments in process-systems and equipment obsolete with no software patches available and its not financially feasable to rip everything out.

    Now they also tend not to teach how to use those types of problems to your advantage when it comes to HR or negotiating a raise or whatever to make
    fixing things actually rewarding career-wise... taking negatives and making them into positives in the end.

    Nick

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