Hello Aaron!

08 Aug 24 15:30, you wrote to me:

You act as if we're the only country pouring money into Ukraine.

If Russia were to directly attack Americans, Article 5 of NATO
would apply.

So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the
Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if
Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend
us. Sounds smart.

Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian civilians.


Mike


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Hello Alan,

Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion.

Defending themselves in Russia?

When Japan attacked the USA at Pearl harbor did the USA reply in Pearl Harbor?

FDR announced to a joint session of Congress that a state of war
existed between the United States and the Empire of Japan.

And then all Japanese and Japanese Americans in Hawaii were given
special protection so they could remain in paradise rather than be
returned to the Land of the Rising Sun.

For Life,
Lee

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So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian
civilians.

No, Ukraine is an American asset. Biden is the one who was ok with it while Russia amassed troops along the Ukraine border for months and months and did nothing about it.

Nobody should be killing anyone. This all could and should have been avoided, but the opportunity to squander money was knocking, and Biden seized the opportunity.

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So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retaliates, then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

If Ukraine attacked Russia unprovoked, I doubt we'd be defending their
actions.

However, that is not what happened. Russia started occupying areas of
Ukraine several years ago. In the last four years, they have invaded
Ukraine. If Ukraine sees an opportunity for a counter offensive into
Russian territory that would weaken their invader, they'd be stupid not to
take it.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Miller <=-

No, Ukraine is an American asset. Biden is the one who was ok with it while Russia amassed troops along the Ukraine border for months and
months and did nothing about it.

Nobody should be killing anyone. This all could and should have been avoided, but the opportunity to squander money was knocking, and Biden seized the opportunity.

Ukraine is the Elitist's money laundromat.

EVERYTHING about Ukraine has been around stealing U.S. tax dollars and putting a good percentage into the pockets of the Elitists.


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So then the leftist way to look at it is: go ahead and let the Ukrainian military kill all the Russian civilians they want, and if Russia retalia then we'll depend on the NATO alliance to defend us. Sounds smart.

If Ukraine attacked Russia unprovoked, I doubt we'd be defending their actions.

However, that is not what happened. Russia started occupying areas of Ukraine several years ago. In the last four years, they have invaded Ukraine. If Ukraine sees an opportunity for a counter offensive into Russian territory that would weaken their invader, they'd be stupid not
to take it.

Our troops have been attacked in other countries. They were recently attacked by Iranians in Iraq (reuters.) The public in the USA wasn't outraged; they don't care, because it didn't happen here.

Now Ukraine has recently attacked Russians in Russia, and killed 5 civilians in the process. That's different; 9 military members and 5 civilians died on their own turf. I expect that Putin will avenge their deaths, and I don't expect him to blame himself for it.

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Hello Aaron,

[..]

Seems like you're perfectly happy to let Russia kill Ukrainian
civilians.

No, Ukraine is an American asset.

Ukraine is an independent and soverein country that is trying to
protect itself from an unprovoked invasion by Russia. And you want
the USA to stand idly by and do nothing at all to prevent that
from happening? Suppose we would have done nothing to stop Hitler?
Do you think FDR and Hitler would have sat down together and made
a toast to the Brave New World they had created?

I reckon that is what you were hoping to happen - between Trump
amd Putin.

Biden is the one who was ok with it

Biden is the one who told Putin NO - thus ruining Mad Vlad's plans.

For Life/
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Our troops have been attacked in other countries. They were recently attacked by Iranians in Iraq (reuters.) The public in the USA wasn't outraged; they don't care, because it didn't happen here.

I think it depends on what part of the public. I care. You apparently do.
Many (D) voters may or may not care -- those that believe Joe Biden when
he claims that no military members have died on his watch probably don't
care.

The general public, who may be so tired of "news" might care if they were
even aware of it happening.

Now Ukraine has recently attacked Russians in Russia, and killed 5 civilians i
the process. That's different; 9 military members and 5 civilians died on thei
own turf. I expect that Putin will avenge their deaths, and I don't expect him
to blame himself for it.

That last sentence is probably correct, especially the very last bit. I
100% am certain he won't blame himself, even though he should.


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