Ron L. wrote to jimmylogan <=-

jimmylogan wrote to Dr. What <=-

The example that I use here is to imagine a little kid. He wants a balloon. So his parents get him one. Being a kid, he lets the balloon
go. He watches it go up and up and then realizes that it's not coming back. He cries so his parents get him a new balloon and tie it to his wrist.

Next year, same little kid. He gets his balloon. He lets it go. He cries. But this time he's told "No. You knew what was going to happen.
It's your fault you lost your balloon." And the kid matures a little that day.

The Elitists want to halt that as much as possible.

That's a GREAT visual!!!




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Mike Powell wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

If the liberals have their way, universal healthcare includes abortion -
and is funded by taxpayer money.

So is taking care of unwanted children.

For every 100 abortions, only 7 are performed outside of the first trimester.

So 7 lives in 100 would be saved. That's better than zero!

It would actually be closer to 4 lives if Joe's percentages on the
number of those that are due to medical emergencies is correct.

As I have said before, unless you are out there adopting these kids, or are happily paying the extra tax dollars to help raise them (with NO complaints EVER about high taxes), you really should not get a say in
it.

I am not adopting, and don't like paying the government more money, so
I should *not* be telling women they cannot get an abortion.

As I have seen *zero* stories in here from the pro-life crowd about how they personally have adopted a ton of unwanted kids, and how well it is going for them, it is my opinion that none of us should be telling
women that.

So, let me see if I get this right...

"I don't want to pay more nor adopt, so it's okay for a woman to murder
an unborn child."

Does that sum it up? And if so, does morality not count for anything?







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As I have seen *zero* stories in here from the pro-life crowd about how they personally have adopted a ton of unwanted kids, and how well it is going for them, it is my opinion that none of us should be telling
women that.

So, let me see if I get this right...

"I don't want to pay more nor adopt, so it's okay for a woman to murder
an unborn child."

Does that sum it up? And if so, does morality not count for anything?

No. IMHO, if morality was even the least bit involved, those who think it
is ok for a mother to be forced to carry a child they don't want would be tripping over themselves to pitch in to take care of that child.

Instead, most of them will bristle at the least hint of their time or tax
money being used to assist in keeping these kids safe and healthy. They hide behind "morality" when in reality they don't give a rat's about those kids.

There is absolutely nothing moral about that stance.

That may not be the case for you but I can guarantee if you get a couple of
the participants here going about how abortion is bad "because the kids,"
they will eventually wear down some and show their real feelings about it,
and it won't have anything to do with morals or religion.


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Mike Powell wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

As I have seen *zero* stories in here from the pro-life crowd about how they personally have adopted a ton of unwanted kids, and how well it is going for them, it is my opinion that none of us should be telling women that.

So, let me see if I get this right...

"I don't want to pay more nor adopt, so it's okay for a woman to murder
an unborn child."

Does that sum it up? And if so, does morality not count for anything?

No. IMHO, if morality was even the least bit involved, those who think
it is ok for a mother to be forced to carry a child they don't want
would be tripping over themselves to pitch in to take care of that
child.

Okay - let's set aside 'what others think.' I'm asking YOU. Is it okay
for a mother to murder an unborn child? That's the crux of it.

Instead, most of them will bristle at the least hint of their time or
tax money being used to assist in keeping these kids safe and healthy. They hide behind "morality" when in reality they don't give a rat's
about those kids.

There is absolutely nothing moral about that stance.

That may not be the case for you but I can guarantee if you get a
couple of the participants here going about how abortion is bad
"because the kids," they will eventually wear down some and show their real feelings about it, and it won't have anything to do with morals or religion.

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No. IMHO, if morality was even the least bit involved, those who think it is ok for a mother to be forced to carry a child they don't want would be tripping over themselves to pitch in to take care of that child.

Okay - let's set aside 'what others think.' I'm asking YOU. Is it okay
for a mother to murder an unborn child? That's the crux of it.

I don't believe it is murder until there a heartbeat and/or fetal motion can
be determined -- same way our founding fathers defined it.

My answer would be yes, it is wrong provided this definition is used. As
there is no way it would survive outside the womb, I do not believe it is murder when those criteria are not met.


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