• Due Process

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike on Fri Jun 6 13:44:25 2025
    Mike, you've probably heard the good news: They've brought Killmore Garcia back for his due process that everyone's been asking for.

    So now we'll be paying for his return trip, his room and board in jail, his attorney fees (if Maryland is anything like NY) and if convicted we'll pay for his room and board in prison, and then we can spend a few bucks on
    re-deporting him after he becomes eligible for parole.

    ..and we also get to invite him to sue us for illegally deporting him.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 6 14:33:34 2025
    On 06 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Mike, you've probably heard the good news: They've brought Killmore
    Garcia back for his due process that everyone's been asking for.


    I was wondering what was going on with this... Great news though... Tennessee indictment and not Maryland, there is a chance to get a normal trial.

    Pam says there was new evidence and it sounds like they found someone who flipped and is giving testimony.

    They'll be able to play this out on TV... They say women, children and other MS13 gang members were transported around. There was testimony given for this indictment on how he part of murdering some gang member's mother...

    I hope it's like the OJ trial and the Democrats regret defending him.

    Pam said once he's convicted and does his sentence he'll be sent back... if he can live that long.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 6 14:57:15 2025
    Mike, you've probably heard the good news: They've brought Killmore Garcia back for his due process that everyone's been asking for.


    I was wondering what was going on with this... Great news though... Tennessee indictment and not Maryland, there is a chance to get a normal trial.

    Pam says there was new evidence and it sounds like they found someone who flipped and is giving testimony.

    They'll be able to play this out on TV... They say women, children and other MS13 gang members were transported around. There was testimony given for this indictment on how he part of murdering some gang member's mother...

    It's great for Democrats because they got what they asked for, and it's great for us too because it will show how sleazy Democrats are for demanding that we bring back a terrorist.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jun 7 08:20:38 2025
    On 06 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It's great for Democrats because they got what they asked for, and it's great for us too because it will show how sleazy Democrats are for demanding that we bring back a terrorist.


    I think its funny how things worked out... Sometimes things are "happening" and you don't realize until what he was doing until he's made his move.

    Trump wasn't ignoring the Supreme courts request to bring back the MS13 wife beater... He's like OK... but we'll look in to these allegations first and see what the Grand jury says.

    And they indicted him... Its alleged to to trafficked humans, over 100 trips. MS13 gang members, women and children.

    It's alleged that he forced some of the women and children to have sex with him and also it is alleged that he took pictures of some of the young kids.

    He was in front of a judge earlier this week where he asked for sometime because he "no hablo ingles".

    From what I can see the Dems are trying to distance themselves from this one.

    And from what I can see... If the Dems gain power once again they'll open the border once again letter all come to the country again.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 7 15:13:05 2025
    He was in front of a judge earlier this week where he asked for sometime because he "no hablo ingles".

    From what I can see the Dems are trying to distance themselves from this one.

    It's too late for Senator Van Hollen to distance himself. He went all the way to El Salvador to check on Mr Kill-More to make sure he was being treated good in prison.

    To me it seems highly likely that Democrats have an alliance with organized crime, and this guy that Van Hollen "cares so deeply about" is probably a high ranking member of the gang and somebody that Democrats can't turn their backs on.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jun 7 15:45:04 2025
    On 07 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    It's too late for Senator Van Hollen to distance himself. He went all
    the way to El Salvador to check on Mr Kill-More to make sure he was
    being treated good in prison.

    To me it seems highly likely that Democrats have an alliance with organized crime, and this guy that Van Hollen "cares so deeply about" is probably a high ranking member of the gang and somebody that Democrats can't turn their backs on.


    Most of the ones being sent back right now have had their due process... They have their deportation documentation. Mr MS13 wife beater had his hearing and even had an appeal and they said he has to go.

    The good thing about Maryland father's court case is that it'll happen during the mid-terms and voters will get to see what's up.

    I'm trying to digest all the things going on right now.

    I have found it better just to relax a little and let things play out some before reacting, or over reacting.

    This is an excellent opportunity to let the facts play out.

    Keep the faith!!!

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 8 10:16:54 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    From what I can see the Dems are trying to distance themselves from
    this one.

    But the Internet is forever. I may actually turn the TV on for the 2026 mid-terms just to watch the political ads.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jun 10 09:38:37 2025
    On 08 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    But the Internet is forever. I may actually turn the TV on for the 2026 mid-terms just to watch the political ads.


    I don't like to see the destruction... At the end of the day the people from California need to be reminded of who they voted into power.

    I saw Senator Fetterman on TV talking about his dismay in the riots and his party's response. I wonder when he'll grow a pair and leave the party.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 10 12:13:24 2025
    I saw Senator Fetterman on TV talking about his dismay in the riots and his party's response. I wonder when he'll grow a pair and leave the party.

    Obama worked very hard to get Fetterman elected. Never, ever trust an Obama associate! (Unless it's Malik or Malia - they are the 2 cool Obamas.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 11 07:16:46 2025
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    I don't like to see the destruction... At the end of the day the people from California need to be reminded of who they voted into power.

    But as many Californians have said: They didn't vote for this. The voter fraud machine in California keeps these morons in power.

    I saw Senator Fetterman on TV talking about his dismay in the riots and his party's response. I wonder when he'll grow a pair and leave the party.

    He can't leave. He's brain damaged. So he'll always be a Democrat.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Jun 11 07:04:46 2025
    On 10 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Obama worked very hard to get Fetterman elected. Never, ever trust an Obama associate! (Unless it's Malik or Malia - they are the 2 cool Obamas.)


    Obama was successful at getting 2 people with brain damage elected.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 11 08:09:53 2025
    On 11 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    But as many Californians have said: They didn't vote for this. The
    voter fraud machine in California keeps these morons in power.


    Trump has forced every county in the US to trend Red. There is a guy on CNN that does, or analyzes polls, and he's funny AF to watch because Trump leads in the polls for his immigration position(s)... Even with the immigrant community.

    Who wants rapist, child molesters and like living in their community.


    He can't leave. He's brain damaged. So he'll always be a Democrat.


    I know that people with Brain Damage are usually run as a Democrat... But the more that he heals the more Republican he sounds.

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  • From Phil Taylor@1:275/100.4 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 12 11:56:45 2025
    It's sad that the most rational Democrat is the one who has clinical
    brain damage.

    I think it's the GOP making things worse now not the Democrats.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 12 11:18:49 2025
    On 12 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    It's sad that the most rational Democrat is the one who has clinical
    brain damage.


    I think they are loosing themselves. The loudest part of the Democrat party seems to be the lunatic left... They seem to cater to them while ignoring the center left and right.

    Polls seem to show Trump's plan on mass deportation is popular even with the legal migrants.

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  • From Dumas Walker@1:2320/107 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Jun 7 06:44:00 2025
    Mike, you've probably heard the good news: They've brought Killmore Garcia bac
    for his due process that everyone's been asking for.

    So now we'll be paying for his return trip, his room and board in jail, his attorney fees (if Maryland is anything like NY) and if convicted we'll pay for
    his room and board in prison, and then we can spend a few bucks on re-deporting him after he becomes eligible for parole.

    ..and we also get to invite him to sue us for illegally deporting him.

    If we'd not illegally deported him to begin with, many of these potential
    costs wouldn't be happening. If he is not guilty, several other costs will
    be avoided and, again, some of the initial costs for doing things the
    illegal way could have been avoided.

    One of the points I've made all along is that doing things the Trump/Musk
    way will cost more in the long run. Based on what you've said above, you
    seem to understand this.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 13 07:13:25 2025
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    I think they are loosing themselves. The loudest part of the Democrat party seems to be the lunatic left... They seem to cater to them while ignoring the center left and right.

    A lunatics were easier to control, so they pandered to them. That would have worked pre-Internet because they could tell all these groups a different story, but today their lies are easily demonstrated.

    So they lost the center and right-leaning Democrats. Remember the "I didn't leave the Democrat party. They left me."

    Polls seem to show Trump's plan on mass deportation is popular even
    with the legal migrants.

    The legal ones don't want to get caught up in the "get rid of all illegals" fevor - and I don't blame them.


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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Dumas Walker on Fri Jun 13 07:15:39 2025
    On Sat 7-Jun-2025 6:44a, Dumas Walker@1:2320/107.0 said to Aaron Thomas:

    If we'd not illegally deported him to begin with, many of these potential costs wouldn't be happening. If he is not guilty, several other costs
    will
    be avoided and, again, some of the initial costs for doing things the illegal way could have been avoided.

    Sound logic and thought process, maybe too sound for some people.

    It will be interesting over the last 3 years how things play out. If the system / constitution work as designed it does not matter how bad the sitting President is, as the Legislative and Judicual branch is supposed to check each other and balance things out. If it doesn't then the everything is well and truely broken! That will be the true, and expensive thing that will need to be worked out when everything is said and done.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Dumas Walker on Fri Jun 13 06:12:41 2025
    If we'd not illegally deported him to begin with, many of these potential costs wouldn't be happening. If he is not guilty, several other costs will be avoided and, again, some of the initial costs for doing things
    the illegal way could have been avoided.

    One of the points I've made all along is that doing things the Trump/Musk way will cost more in the long run. Based on what you've said above, you seem to understand this.

    I understand, but to me no price is too high for protecting American citizens (and residents) from foreign criminals. Biden just scampered off with trillions of dollars without us gaining anything from it, so this is progress, even if a few million dollars are wasted.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 13 10:33:59 2025
    I understand, but to me no price is too high for protecting American citizens (and residents) from foreign criminals. Biden just scampered off with trillions of dollars without us gaining anything from it, so this is progress, even if a few million dollars are wasted.

    Be careful what you wish for. How do you know they are "criminals"? Because a government offical in a press conference, a reporter, or Joe Blow told you? The Supreme Court time and time again has affirmed that foreigners regardless of their citizen status are afforded most of the protetions of the constitution (specifically the 1st, 4th, and 5th ammendments..). Cheif amongst them the right to due process..

    If You or I start making exceptions for one group just becaue it makes us feel safer, there is nothing stopping anyone up the food chain from deciding that for the same or additional safety we should take away due processes for citizens as well (In fact t has already been talked about.).

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jun 13 10:03:39 2025
    On 13 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Polls seem to show Trump's plan on mass deportation is popular even with the legal migrants.

    The legal ones don't want to get caught up in the "get rid of all illegals" fevor - and I don't blame them.


    I know some immigrants, and they like me, do not want our neighborhoods filled with criminal rapist and whatnot.

    I know someone who would fall under the Dreamer's Act, but she remains illegal until can find a legal means of staying. Her family... 2 brothers and a mother now legal... Brother a citizen and a brother and mother now have their Green Cards.

    I hope for her that the politicians look at Dreamers and hear them out. Things are cut and dry ... But for the non-Dreamers who snuck in, those that are un-documented Democrats, need to go.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Fri Jun 13 10:22:07 2025
    Be careful what you wish for. How do you know they are "criminals"? Because a government offical in a press conference, a reporter, or Joe Blow told you? The Supreme Court time and time again has affirmed that foreigners regardless of their citizen status are afforded most of the protetions of the constitution (specifically the 1st, 4th, and 5th ammendments..). Cheif amongst them the right to due process..

    I consider anyone who is in the country illegally to be a "criminal."

    The Trump voters voted for Trump because of the things he said he would do; not because we're legal experts who care about the consequences.

    If anyone's going to take rights away from American citizens, it won't be Trump. If he's inadvertently setting the precedent for evil predecessors, then so be it. This is what the majority of Democratic America asked for.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 13 13:22:14 2025
    On Fri 13-Jun-2025 10:22a, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Rug Rat:
    I consider anyone who is in the country illegally to be a "criminal."

    This is covered under the 6th Admendmant. The right to legal counsel, and speedy hearing. (Even if it is not handled by the immigration department). As previusly stated. Everyone on American soil is granted consitutional protection regardless of their immigrant status..

    The Trump voters voted for Trump because of the things he said he would
    do; not because we're legal experts who care about the consequences.

    That is NOT how America works. I believe you need to take a basic civics class (Pitty they stopped teaching this in school). The citizenry can not vote in one person to singlehandely dismantel the constitution.

    If anyone's going to take rights away from American citizens, it won't be Trump. If he's inadvertently setting the precedent for evil predecessors, then so be it. This is what the majority of Democratic America asked for.

    "Democratic America"? How very Marxist/Lennonist. I pray we do go so far down this rabit hole that we begin to commit human rights attrocities the like of countries such as the Democratic Republic of Khampuchea, The People Democratic Republic of Viet Nam, The People Democratic Republic of North Korea, ETC. We are a Consitutional Republic / representative democracy.

    Again, may I suggest a brush up on civics, followed up by consitutional law.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Fri Jun 13 18:38:01 2025
    The Trump voters voted for Trump because of the things he said he woul do; not because we're legal experts who care about the consequences.

    That is NOT how America works. I believe you need to take a basic
    civics class (Pitty they stopped teaching this in school). The
    citizenry can not vote in one person to singlehandely dismantel the constitution.

    I get your point, but you're missing my point. We (the majority of American votets) WANT America to work that way. For now at least.

    The Biden administration let a historic and unprecedented quantity of undocumented migrants enter the country with no background checks. They allowed it to happen so that they (the administration) could subvert the will of the American people in more ways than one. That is NOT how America works.

    then so be it. This is what the majority of Democratic America asked f

    "Democratic America"? How very Marxist/Lennonist. I pray we do go so

    Those words are too big for me. I'm just stating the facts based on my observations. There was a guy named Marx and another guy named Lennon? And they are listed in the indoctrination manual on page 5? I haven't read that far yet.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 14 08:49:39 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I know some immigrants, and they like me, do not want our neighborhoods filled with criminal rapist and whatnot.

    Yet CNN was still surprised when legal immigrants strongly supported Trump's illegal immigration policy.

    I hope for her that the politicians look at Dreamers and hear them out.
    Things are cut and dry ... But for the non-Dreamers who snuck in,
    those that are un-documented Democrats, need to go.

    That's why I think that Trump is doing the right thing. Get rid of the problem ones first. Give a big incentive for the non-problem ones to leave. Then deal with the stickier issues of the Dreamers.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Rug Rat on Sat Jun 14 08:49:39 2025
    Rug Rat wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    I consider anyone who is in the country illegally to be a "criminal."

    This is covered under the 6th Admendmant. The right to legal counsel,
    and speedy hearing.

    Illegals have no rights under the Constitution.

    That is NOT how America works. I believe you need to take a basic
    civics class (Pitty they stopped teaching this in school).

    Perhaps it's YOU who need to take a civics class instead of listening to Propaganda.

    "Democratic America"? How very Marxist/Lennonist.

    And I see that we have another Leftist in our midst who doesn't understand that words have meanings.


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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 14 08:34:42 2025
    On Sat 14-Jun-2025 8:49a, Ron L.@1:120/616.0 said to Rug Rat:
    Rug Rat wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    I consider anyone who is in the country illegally to be a "criminal."

    This is covered under the 6th Admendmant. The right to legal
    counsel,
    and speedy hearing.

    Illegals have no rights under the Constitution.

    Perhaps you may want to do some research on what the Supreme Court and Congress have to say about that. Here, I will give you a head start.

    https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-2/ALDE_00013725/


    "Democratic America"? How very Marxist/Lennonist.

    And I see that we have another Leftist in our midst who doesn't understand that
    words have meanings.

    "Leftist" is that latest euphamism for someone who believes in the consitution these days?

    Having a personal debate if I really want to take the time to explain this to you. Though in the simplest form, the American people can not vote ONE man into power to rule the country by execute order or decree. Any single branch of government can not pass laws or govern outside what the framework of the constitution allows. We do not even directly vote on laws, rather we vote for the people to make and vote on those laws, called representatives.

    If you want to blindly follow and worship a single leader, there are several countries I can recommend you move to.



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  • From Anthony Bonante@1:129/42 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 14 13:36:37 2025
    Illegals have no rights under the Constitution.

    The fifth and fourteeth amendment extend due process and equal protection not just to "citizens" but to "persons", which the Supreme Court has consistenetly interpreted to include individuals regardless of their immigration status.

    Illegal immigrants generally do not have the right to a government-paid lawyer in immigration court, and those stopped at the border may have fewer due process rights if they are considered to be seeking initial entry.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Rug Rat on Sat Jun 14 12:13:27 2025
    On 13 Jun 2025, Rug Rat said the following...


    This is covered under the 6th Admendmant. The right to legal counsel,
    and speedy hearing. (Even if it is not handled by the immigration department). As previusly stated. Everyone on American soil is granted consitutional protection regardless of their immigrant status..


    They are getting due process... The court they go through in an Immigration court and they see an Immigration Judge.

    For example the "Maryland Dad" had not 1 but 2 days in court. One where his case was presented to an Immigration Judge. That judge made an order for deportation and this decision was appealed and the appeals court said the order to deport was valid.

    As a side now, both judges said he was a gang member.

    Some of the people getting deported in this mass deportation mess have been people who have committed crimes in the US... have been found guilty and have served time for crimes...

    The later find out that no "Juan" is above the law.

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