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Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Graveyard] ah, r0dent write was a good one
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Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man:
Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Sep 12 2024 12:39:42

Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard

I was hoping one day to see the HTMLterm come to fruition, but it was pretty much deprecated before it even had a chance :(
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: kk4qbn to digital man on Thu Sep 12 2024 18:17:02

Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard

SlyEdit won't let me quote your message for some reason. (Nightfox, maybe you should try it out and see if there's an issue.)

I vaguely recall discussion of HTMLterm probably 15 years ago. At the time I was interested in it just on general principle because it seemed like a wacky innovation. I didn't really understand what it was meant to be, though; the concept seemed a bit slippery. Today I'd be a lot more skeptical of it. Is it a terminal? A browser? Both? Where is the line drawn? Why not just use a browser?

I have mixed feelings about the flashy features in SyncTERM today too, but at least in those cases there's prior art and justification for them existing in a terminal emulator. And no reason other terminals can't or shouldn't implement them.

echicken
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: kk4qbn to digital man on Thu Sep 12 2024 06:17 pm

Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard

I was hoping one day to see the HTMLterm come to fruition, but it was pretty much deprecated before it even had a chance :(
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I'm able to quote his message with SlyEdit; not seeing any problems here.. It looks like we're using the same version of SlyEdit, too (the headers show you're using SlyEdit 1.90b Ice style).

Nightfox

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Nightfox to echicken on Thu Sep 12 2024 18:30:30

I'm able to quote his message with SlyEdit; not seeing any problems here.. It looks like we're using the same version of SlyEdit, too (the headers show you're using SlyEdit 1.90b Ice style).

Weird. I wasn't able to quote any of kk4qbn's text in my previous message - it just didn't show up in the quote selection box - however I was able to quote the quoted text from his message.

echicken
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu Sep 12 2024 11:33 pm

I'm able to quote his message with SlyEdit; not seeing any problems

Weird. I wasn't able to quote any of kk4qbn's text in my previous message - it just didn't show up in the quote selection box - however I was able to quote the quoted text from his message.

Are your other JS files up to date? SlyEdit uses dd_lightbar_menu.js (in exec/load) for the quote selection box - I have made updates to that to fix issues when I see them, though I doubt anything there would cause this issue.

Nightfox

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: kk4qbn to echicken on Fri Sep 13 2024 01:23:03

I'm able to quote his message with SlyEdit; not seeing any problems
here.. It looks like we're using the same version of SlyEdit, too (the
headers show you're using SlyEdit 1.90b Ice style).

Weird. I wasn't able to quote any of kk4qbn's text in my previous message
- it just didn't show up in the quote selection box - however I was able
to quote the quoted text from his message.

I went back and checked that message and it is a possibility that I was using just the regular line editor to write the original message to DM, that could be the issue. I don't know why it would be, but I don't think

Scratch That, for some reason I missed the header info in the original message, I was using Slyedit, I swear the last time I looked it showed no editor in the header info.. <shrug>
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Sep 12 2024 12:39:42

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man:
Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard

What does QWK prepack do?

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Keyop to digital man on Sat Sep 14 2024 02:51 am

Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Sep 12 2024 12:39:42

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: Add QWK prepack to chopping block list and HTMLterm to graveyard

What does QWK prepack do?

Allows a sysop to have their system preemptively create QWK packets for specific users (e.g. QWKnet nodes), nightly.

Once upon a time, creating a QWK packet took a measurable amount of time (exporting the messages to QWK format, zipping the messages into a .QWK file), and QWKnet nodes might want to save those long-distance phone charges and have their packet already created and waiting for them when they made their once-a-day phone-modem call to their QWKnet hub to upload their replies (from the day before) and download their new messages in a QWK packet. I doubt anybody needs this optimization any more.
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Digital Man to Keyop on Fri Sep 13 2024 20:13:09

Allows a sysop to have their system preemptively create QWK packets for specific users (e.g. QWKnet nodes), nightly.

Once upon a time, creating a QWK packet took a measurable amount of time (exporting the messages to QWK format, zipping the messages into a .QWK file), and QWKnet nodes might want to save those long-distance
phone charges and have their packet already created and waiting for them when they made their once-a-day phone-modem call to their QWKnet hub to upload their replies (from the day before) and download their
new
messages in a QWK packet. I doubt anybody needs this optimization any more.

I have one dial up user that still uses a QWK offline reader. Hopefully they won't be impacted by this change ... ?

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Keyop to Digital Man on Sat Sep 14 2024 04:49 am

I have one dial up user that still uses a QWK offline reader. Hopefully they won't be impacted by this change ... ?

If you've never heard of Pre-packed QWK, then you're not using the feature and your dial-up user won't know if it's removed. I believe this to be true of every other Synchronet system too.
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Digital Man to Keyop on Fri Sep 13 2024 23:58:50

If you've never heard of Pre-packed QWK, then you're not using the feature and your dial-up user won't know if it's removed. I believe this to be true of every other Synchronet system too.

Ok thanks :)

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Nightfox to echicken on Fri Sep 13 2024 09:17:07

Are your other JS files up to date? SlyEdit uses dd_lightbar_menu.js (in exec/load) for the quote selection box - I have made updates to that to

They're all of the same vintage, which is about two weeks ago. If you've fixed something since then I wouldn't have it yet, but I'll update soon.

echicken
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: echicken to Nightfox on Sat Sep 14 2024 10:43 pm

Are your other JS files up to date? SlyEdit uses dd_lightbar_menu.js (in
exec/load) for the quote selection box - I have made updates to that to

They're all of the same vintage, which is about two weeks ago. If you've fixed something since then I wouldn't have it yet, but I'll update soon.

I made a change in dd_lightbar_menu.js about a week ago, but it was a fix for refreshing the scrollbar. I wouldn't expect that to have anything to do with the quote selection for SlyEdit.

Nightfox

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Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man:
QWK prepack has been removed in v3.20a
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Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Chopping Block]
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Sat Jan 04 2025 02:40:22

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Chopping Block]

What does "Attach/FrontDoor-style FidoNet mailer support (SBBSecho)" do?

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Keyop to digital man on Sun Jan 05 2025 03:25 pm

Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Sat Jan 04 2025 02:40:22

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Chopping Block]

What does "Attach/FrontDoor-style FidoNet mailer support (SBBSecho)" do?

There are 2 types of FidoNet mailers: FLO/Binkley style and Attach/FrontDoor style. This is what the EchoCfg->Global Settings->Mailer Type option selects.

For decades now, nobody has used SBBSecho with a an Attach/FD style mailer, so it likely doesn't even work correctly in that mode.
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: Digital Man to Keyop on Sun Jan 05 2025 14:53:02

There are 2 types of FidoNet mailers: FLO/Binkley style and Attach/FrontDoor style. This is what the EchoCfg->Global Settings->Mailer Type option selects.

For decades now, nobody has used SBBSecho with a an Attach/FD style mailer, so it likely doesn't even work correctly in that mode.

Thanks for the explanation :)

K

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Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Graveyard] Receive SMTP mail by user number is now gone
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On 16 Feb 2025, digital man said the following...

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Graveyard] Receive SMTP mail by user number is now gone

regarding ident queries..

imo queries make sense to me if you're shelling out from one bbs to another, and could be used just like how irc uses it (block a specific user from a
bbs that behaves crazily, without banning the whole bbs)

perhaps go the other direction (if it's not already there) and allow blocking ip/ident pairs..

not sure why the ircd doesn't use it either.. it's specifically for identifying individuals on multiuser systems

*shrug* as usually "easy for me to say" :) .. just seems like supporting it fits the general concept of sync (which supports finger..)

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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Sun Feb 16 2025 09:00 pm


I'd like to keep cold keys and auto-login by ip address
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Sun Feb 16 2025 21:00:33

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Graveyard] Receive SMTP mail by user number is now gone

Did I miss some sort of survey about this or something?

I (was) using this, but I guess I can figure a workaround.
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Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: kk4qbn to digital man on Mon Feb 17 2025 06:57 pm

Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: dev:chopping_block
By: digital man to wiki.synchro.net on Sun Feb 16 2025 21:00:33

Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/dev:chopping_block by digital man: [Graveyard] Receive SMTP mail by user number is now gone

Did I miss some sort of survey about this or something?

I (was) using this, but I guess I can figure a workaround.

No, but it's been documented as not-recommended, disabled by default and generally a bad idea.
If you really use/need this feature of the mail server (do you?), I would consider adding the ability for *authenticated* SMTP clients to send email directly to user numbers, but that could also lead to confusion (why does this email address work for some senders, but not others?).
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