• Waffle

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Oct 9 14:49:15 2021
    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

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  • From fang-castro@21:3/112 to Avon on Fri Oct 8 19:28:21 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...

    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

    I can't find it anywhere. All the anon ftp sites it shows listed at aren't around anymore. Here's a nice directory w/a load of files for the DOS version if you get itchy to play with it =)

    http://www.lanet.lv/simtel.net/msdos/waffle-pre.html

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  • From fang-castro@21:3/112 to Avon on Fri Oct 8 19:33:05 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...

    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

    github clone

    https://github.com/pyffle/Pyffle-BBS

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to fang-castro on Sat Oct 9 19:16:29 2021
    On 08 Oct 2021 at 07:28p, fang-castro pondered and said...

    I can't find it anywhere. All the anon ftp sites it shows listed at
    aren't around anymore. Here's a nice directory w/a load of files for the

    Thanks, do you know the filename(s) for the unix version?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to fang-castro on Sat Oct 9 19:17:59 2021
    On 08 Oct 2021 at 07:33p, fang-castro pondered and said...

    github clone

    https://github.com/pyffle/Pyffle-BBS

    Yep have seen this, and thanks! :)

    At one stage I was running Waffle for DOS but always wanted to run the unix version, as you know it's hard to find or gone for good :(

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Sat Oct 9 08:50:29 2021
    Avon wrote to fang-castro <=-

    At one stage I was running Waffle for DOS but always wanted to run the unix version, as you know it's hard to find or gone for good :(

    So did I! I had it set up as part of a uucp bridge that used something
    called FRED (?) to bridge the files from waffle BBSes into ftn packets.


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  • From fang-castro@21:3/112 to Avon on Sat Oct 9 08:23:42 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...

    On 08 Oct 2021 at 07:28p, fang-castro pondered and said...

    I can't find it anywhere. All the anon ftp sites it shows listed at aren't around anymore. Here's a nice directory w/a load of files for

    Thanks, do you know the filename(s) for the unix version.

    I was tryin to atleast find the names in some of my searches, that would definitely help. I'll try again... Waffle looks like fun. You probably found the usenet posts like I did, lots to look thru =)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Blue White on Sun Oct 10 09:42:16 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021 at 08:50a, Blue White pondered and said...

    So did I! I had it set up as part of a uucp bridge that used something called FRED (?) to bridge the files from waffle BBSes into ftn packets.

    Yes I was using Waffle to gate UUCP also for a while. :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to fang-castro on Sun Oct 10 09:42:47 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021 at 08:23a, fang-castro pondered and said...

    I was tryin to atleast find the names in some of my searches, that would definitely help. I'll try again... Waffle looks like fun. You probably found the usenet posts like I did, lots to look thru =)

    I'm a past Waffle sysop/user .. I liked it back in the day :)

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  • From fang-castro@21:3/112 to Avon on Sun Oct 10 06:14:48 2021
    On 10 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...
    I'm a past Waffle sysop/user .. I liked it back in the day :)

    I spent a good amount of time looking for the unix version of Waffle... =p

    from the UNIX.DOC and a Waffle FAQ it looks like:

    filenames would've been
    wafxxx.tar.Z or wafxxx.tz

    versions were 1.61, 1.62, 1.64 and 1.65

    sources were $120 so people probably didn't make it available

    cybernetbbs.net ran Waffle but doesn't have Telnet open, ports 21, 22, 80,
    443 are open but i can't connect to anything... other ports open too

    every ftp/telnet site i can find is from the 90s and no longer around =/

    i'll probably keep searching because it's kind of fun running across all this old stuff and i have a fresh pot of coffee

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to fang-castro on Mon Oct 11 13:57:47 2021
    On 10 Oct 2021 at 06:14a, fang-castro pondered and said...

    i'll probably keep searching because it's kind of fun running across all this old stuff and i have a fresh pot of coffee

    Thanks for the searching and info to date - good luck and keep me posted :)

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Avon on Sun Oct 10 17:06:56 2021
    github clone
    https://github.com/pyffle/Pyffle-BBS

    Yep have seen this, and thanks! :)

    At one stage I was running Waffle for DOS but always wanted to run the unix version, as you know it's hard to find or gone for good :(

    Hey, its prolly no help but... I did a search for anything to do with Waffle BBS @ 2o. I have the following files in case any might be helpful:

    WAF165.ZIP Waffle BBS v1.65

    Waffle Utils:
    ARBITRON.ZIP Waffle BBS Arbitron listing generator
    CHKFLS12.ZIP Chkfiles utility for Waffle BBS v1.65
    CWEXP104.ZIP Waffle BBS news expire utility
    DISKHOG.ZIP Diskhog v0.01 (UNIX) Waffle BBS Utility
    FILDR201.ZIP Waffle BBS friendly file door replacement
    MAILSUM.ZIP Waffle BBS Logfile Summary Report
    NETSUM25.ZIP Waffle BBS NET file report generator
    NUEXPIRE.ZIP Waffle BBS news expire perl script
    PRIVLIST.ZIP Privlist (UNIX) Waffle BBS utility
    QUOTA01.ZIP QUOTA v0.1 for Waffle BBS
    REQ101.ZIP Request v1.01 utility for WAFFLE uucp/bbs package
    SEX100.ZIP Waffle BBS utility for news & dir expiration
    WAFDL111.ZIP WAFDL v1.11; Utility for Waffle BBSes file DLs w/o Wafffle WAFSRTR2.ZIP Waffle BBS sort utility
    WINFO100.ZIP Winfocom; Game external for Waffle UUCP/BBS
    WUP100.ZIP Waffle BBS utility programs (for waf164)
    XFAX006B.ZIP XFAX Fax Receiving software
    ASER28.ZIP ASER (UNIX) WaffleBBS utility; mail based archive server FEEDER11.ZIP For uupcb systems who get feeds from waffle sites
    FXUC02B.ZIP FX UUCICO v0.2beta drop-in replacement for waffle UUCICO
    REQ101.ZIP Request v1.01 utility for WAFFLE uucp/bbs package
    WFS203.ZIP Waffle File Server (WFS) v2.0.0
    WINFO100.ZIP Winfocom; Game external for Waffle UUCP/BBS package
    ZNEWS97D.ZIP ZipNews FAST Usenet News access
    WW2WAF10.ZIP Allows use of Waffle as a door on a WWIV BBS
    WAFM10.ZIP WaflineMail; QWK/REP offline mail door



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to paulie420 on Mon Oct 11 14:18:02 2021
    On 10 Oct 2021 at 05:06p, paulie420 pondered and said...

    Hey, its prolly no help but... I did a search for anything to do with Waffle BBS @ 2o. I have the following files in case any might be helpful:

    Not at all, very helpful thank you :)

    Good to know what is around and about re all things Waffle.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Sat Oct 9 07:00:00 2021
    Avon wrote to fang-castro <=-

    At one stage I was running Waffle for DOS but always wanted to run the unix version, as you know it's hard to find or gone for good :(

    I was amazed to see a setup where people were getting serious things done
    with KA9Q as a network router and Waffle for DOS, on crappy beige desktop
    386 boxes.


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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to Avon on Tue Oct 12 17:41:00 2021
    On 09 Oct 2021, Avon said the following...

    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

    I thought that I did but can only find the DOS version in my file bases. Will have to take a longer look when I get a chance. I have a crapload of files that don't have very good descriptions.

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  • From Gdclark@21:1/183 to Avon on Tue Dec 21 21:16:23 2021
    Re: Waffle
    By: Avon to All on Sat Oct 09 2021 02:49 pm

    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64). I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr 1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix. I have thought the best approach would be to do a series of ports to newer and newer versions of Unix until it's current.

    The file is 230 KB, if you'd like a copy. Let me know!
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  • From Gdclark@21:1/183 to Avon on Tue Dec 21 21:35:31 2021
    Re: Waffle
    By: Gdclark to Avon on Tue Dec 21 2021 09:16 pm

    By the way, I am running an instance of MS-DOS WAFFLE 1.65 on DOSBox 0.74-3 at telnet://mutiny86.asuscomm.com:1957/

    It is not very stable and locks up periodically but I restart it.

    I've not run WAFFLE since the mid-1990s when I was uunet!melanie!peter and I've not done much to this instance as it's only been online for a few days.
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 19:11:06 2021
    On 21 Dec 2021 at 09:16p, Gdclark pondered and said...

    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64). I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr 1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix. I have thought the best approach would be to do a series of ports to newer and newer versions of Unix until it's current.

    The file is 230 KB, if you'd like a copy. Let me know!

    Yes please thank you.

    My email is avon@bbs.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 19:11:49 2021
    On 21 Dec 2021 at 09:35p, Gdclark pondered and said...

    By the way, I am running an instance of MS-DOS WAFFLE 1.65 on DOSBox 0.74-3 at telnet://mutiny86.asuscomm.com:1957/

    It is not very stable and locks up periodically but I restart it.

    I've not run WAFFLE since the mid-1990s when I was uunet!melanie!peter
    and I've not done much to this instance as it's only been online for a
    few days. --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux

    I'll be sure to check it out :)

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 10:45:00 2021
    Gdclark wrote (2021-12-21):

    Re: Waffle
    By: Avon to All on Sat Oct 09 2021 02:49 pm

    Does anyone have the Unix version of Waffle BBS?

    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64). I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr 1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix.

    Cool! I'm also interested ...

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  • From paulie420@21:1/100 to gdclark on Wed Dec 22 07:34:46 2021
    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64).
    SEEN-BY: 1/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 SEEN-BY: 1/117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 133 134 SEEN-BY: 1/135 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 SEEN-BY: 1/154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 163 164 166 167 168 169 171 172 173 SEEN-BY: 1/174 175 176 178 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 190 193 194 195 SEEN-BY: 1/197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 211 212 214 215 SEEN-BY: 1/217 218 219 220 222 223 224 226 227 229 230 232 233 234 235 236 237 SEEN-BY: 1/238 616 995 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 SEEN-BY: 2/113 114 115 116 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 126 127 128 129 130 131 SEEN-BY: 2/132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 144 145 150 151 152 154 SEEN-BY: 2/155 156 159 160 161 162 164 165 166 167 168 1202 3/100 4/100 106 SEEN-BY: 5/100
  • From Gdclark@21:1/183 to Avon on Wed Dec 22 08:36:29 2021
    Re: Re: Waffle
    By: Avon to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 2021 07:11 pm

    The file is 230 KB, if you'd like a copy. Let me know!

    Yes please thank you.

    My email is avon@bbs.nz

    I have emailed it. It's coming from my instance of Synchronet, which I only recently installed. I have no experience with Synchronet and my last BBS activity was ~25 years ago so there's plenty of opportunity for something to have gone wrong. If you don't receive it, please let me know and I'll do what it takes to get it to you.

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  • From Gdclark@21:1/183 to Oli on Wed Dec 22 08:47:02 2021
    Re: Waffle
    By: Oli to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 2021 10:45 am

    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64). I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr 1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix.

    Cool! I'm also interested ...

    Since there may be a general interest, I have shared the file at

    https://mega.nz/file/DUsSyDSD#_AcMtUm7Y4fIH4zW_0D-MVegeApxCpIEeQFhaskpa-0

    I have not been able to get it to compile (not that I've spent much time on it) and I suspect it will take some effort. My plan has been to start with a BSD from back then because I think it will compile there. Then I would step-wise port it to more and more modern BSDs until it has caught up to today. At that point, it might not be hard to port it to Linux (assuming that's where most people are who would be interested).

    On the other hand, it might be easiest to port to an old version of Linux and then move forward in time from there.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 17:52:41 2021
    Since there may be a general interest, I have shared the file at

    https://mega.nz/file/DUsSyDSD#_AcMtUm7Y4fIH4zW_0D-MVegeApxCpIEeQFhaskpa-0

    I have not been able to get it to compile (not that I've spent much time on it) and I suspect it will take some effort. My plan has been to start with a BSD from back then because I think it will compile there. Then I would step-wise port it to more and more modern BSDs until it has caught up to today. At that point, it might not be hard to port it to Linux (assuming that's where most people are who would be interested).

    On the other hand, it might be easiest to port to an old version of
    Linux and then move forward in time from there.
    -- Gordon.

    Thanks a ton, Gordon. I've grabbed it quite easily and added to 2o for archiving.. and I'm gonna dig it at some point in the near future.

    I think compiling might be above my pay grade, but I do wanna take a peek. I can compile basic things, but I bet yer right that it will take a few or more version steps - with modification - to get it going.

    Thanks, much, for the link.



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  • From Gdclark@21:1/183 to paulie420 on Wed Dec 22 20:29:40 2021
    Re: Re: Waffle
    By: paulie420 to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 2021 05:52 pm

    Thanks a ton, Gordon. I've grabbed it quite easily and added to 2o for archiving.. and I'm gonna dig it at some point in the near future.

    I think compiling might be above my pay grade, but I do wanna take a peek. I can compile basic things, but I bet yer right that it will take a few or more version steps - with modification - to get it going.

    Thanks, much, for the link.

    You are very welcome! I've been a fan of WAFFLE for a very long time and I'd like to see it march on into the future.

    I hadn't known anything much about the author until recently when I found he (Tom Dell) went by Soylent and appeared in "BBS: The Documentary" (available on YouTube).

    Since then, I found what I think is the full interview with him on archive.org in a video called "BBS Documentary Interview: Soylent and Harrison Page".

    I came to the BBS world from Unix at work. I wanted to access Usenet at home on my MS-DOS machine and that led me to WAFFLE. I also ran Coherent, Linux, and the various BSDs of that time (e.g., 386BSD) but WAFFLE always impressed me as a great way to access Usenet plus it was fun.

    My interest today is because I like the idea of a network of peers where people control their own systems without being tagged and tracked. I'd really like a single-user, combination Usenet reader/server, that requires virtually no configuration except running SETUP.EXE, entering the name(s) of your peer system(s), and choosing what groups to read. It shouldn't be harder than setting up an email client to talk SMTP/IMAP to some server but it would be a peer that would relay Usenet.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gdclark on Tue Jan 4 15:37:57 2022
    On 22 Dec 2021 at 08:36a, Gdclark pondered and said...

    I have emailed it. It's coming from my instance of Synchronet, which I only recently installed. I have no experience with Synchronet and my
    last BBS activity was ~25 years ago so there's plenty of opportunity for something to have gone wrong. If you don't receive it, please let me
    know and I'll do what it takes to get it to you.

    Got it, and thanks :)

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Gdclark on Tue Jan 4 12:23:46 2022
    Gdclark wrote (2021-12-22):

    Re: Waffle
    By: Oli to Gdclark on Wed Dec 22 2021 10:45 am

    Are you still looking? I have a copy of waffleunix.tgz (1.64).
    I've not been able to compile it, the code is very old (14 Apr
    1992) and needs migrating to a modern Unix.

    Cool! I'm also interested ...

    Since there may be a general interest, I have shared the file at

    Got it.

    I have not been able to get it to compile (not that I've spent much time
    on it) and I suspect it will take some effort.

    I haven't tried. Unfortunately I don't know C that well, especially not the things that changed over all the decades.

    My plan has been to start
    with a BSD from back then because I think it will compile there.

    Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

    Then I
    would step-wise port it to more and more modern BSDs until it has caught
    up to today. At that point, it might not be hard to port it to Linux (assuming that's where most people are who would be interested).

    On the other hand, it might be easiest to port to an old version of Linux and then move forward in time from there.

    I think if you get it compile with a recent BSD it shouldn't be too hard to port it to Linux.

    I wonder if anyone has experience with compiling C(++) code with Zig.

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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Oli on Wed Feb 16 08:30:34 2022
    On 04 Jan 2022, Oli said the following...

    Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

    Not common, but I started with it before then and had a number of systems running Slackware by 1991 (so 31 years ago). We did have to make and compile our custom kernels and the whole OS back then. That started to go out with
    2.0 and mod's and by 2.5 or so you didn't need to compile a custom kernel each time. I stopped doing so some time in the early 2000's. There are likely plenty of old versions on servers around the world you could start the project of upgrading to a modern Linux on. You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle
    back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to bcw142 on Thu Feb 17 21:07:54 2022
    On 16 Feb 2022 at 08:30a, bcw142 pondered and said...

    You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

    Yeah we're old buggers eh? ;-)

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  • From Dr. What@21:1/194 to bcw142 on Thu Feb 17 09:35:00 2022
    bcw142 wrote to Oli <=-

    upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

    I remember running Waffle for a short time a long time ago.

    I remember harrassing a bad user by setting something in his profile to "weasel" (I think). It made everything he typed/saw CoMe OuT LiKe ThIs.


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to bcw142 on Fri Feb 18 08:58:45 2022
    bcw142 wrote (2022-02-16):

    On 04 Jan 2022, Oli said the following...

    Linux wasn't very common 30 years ago, was it? ;)

    Not common, but I started with it before then and had a number of systems running Slackware by 1991 (so 31 years ago). We did have to make and compile our custom kernels and the whole OS back then. That started to go out with 2.0 and mod's and by 2.5 or so you didn't need to compile a
    custom kernel each time. I stopped doing so some time in the early
    2000's. There are likely plenty of old versions on servers around the
    world you could start the project of upgrading to a modern Linux on. You might be able to go in 5 year jumps (the project of upgrading Waffle to current stuff). I did run Waffle back in the day as did Avon when we used our real names ;)

    I really don't have much experience with C, how it evolved over the years and cross-platform development. But I wonder if it might be more work to port Waffle to several older versions instead of jumping directly to proper ANSI C99 (or whatever works best).

    Or start to get in running on a recent BSD first and then port to Linux.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Oli on Sat Feb 19 03:49:23 2022
    On 18 Feb 2022 at 08:58a, Oli pondered and said...

    I really don't have much experience with C, how it evolved over the
    years and cross-platform development. But I wonder if it might be more work to port Waffle to several older versions instead of jumping
    directly to proper ANSI C99 (or whatever works best).

    I got Waffle compiling and linking on a modern Unix with
    a recent Clang not too long ago.

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  • From fang-castro@21:3/112 to tenser on Fri Feb 18 18:41:57 2022
    On 19 Feb 2022, tenser said the following...

    I got Waffle compiling and linking on a modern Unix with
    a recent Clang not too long ago.

    do you have the .zip?

    |04--- |08Three words that describe my work ethic: Lazy.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to fang-castro on Sun Feb 20 11:12:04 2022
    On 18 Feb 2022 at 06:41p, fang-castro pondered and said...

    do you have the .zip?

    Nah; I threw it in a git repo. But without whats-his-name's
    blessing, I'm not so sure about passing it around. :-(

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to tenser on Sun Feb 20 12:52:53 2022
    tenser wrote (2022-02-20):

    On 18 Feb 2022 at 06:41p, fang-castro pondered and said...

    do you have the .zip?

    Nah; I threw it in a git repo. But without whats-his-name's
    blessing, I'm not so sure about passing it around. :-(

    Just upload it to archive.org, they don't care about blessings (, copyright and privacy laws) ;-P

    I don't know which version you have. Is it maybe possible to create a patch and only distribute the diff?

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Oli on Mon Feb 21 13:47:46 2022
    On 20 Feb 2022 at 12:52p, Oli pondered and said...

    Just upload it to archive.org, they don't care about blessings (, copyright and privacy laws) ;-P

    I'm actually surprised it's not already there?

    I don't know which version you have. Is it maybe possible to create a patch and only distribute the diff?

    I kind of tend to doubt it; I imagine the patch would
    fall under whatever license waffle itself falls under.

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