• Re: Amber or Green (was 286s)

    From Skylar@21:1/183 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Apr 20 19:32:10 2024
    Re: Re: Amber or Green (was 286s)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Skylar on Sat Apr 20 2024 11:47 am

    San Francisco State University. This was early on, mid-80s. No internet (yet).

    I started using UALR's VAX in 1986. UALR got on BITNET in 1988, I think, and then was the second university in the state to get Internet in 1990.

    Lots of those ADM3a terminals in 3 computer labs.

    In the mid-to-late 80s, UALR had two computer labs for VAX access with VT220 terminals. Their VAX was a cluster of four 11/780s.

    4 hardwired ports and 6 ports hooked up to a dial-up port selector.

    Yikes. There were VT220 terminals all over UALR, as the system was used for both administrative work and academic classes. I want to say there are 24 modems, although I my memory could be way off. There were certainly more than 6. Those same phone lines/modems were used to access the BBS, although the BBS could only be accessed on one of the trunk lines.

    I'm thinking three phone numbers and each one connected to eight modems. Maybe someone with more telecom knowledge than I can set me straight. Because I don't know much more than how to run a 4-wire RJ45 through my house. :)
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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Skylar on Mon Apr 22 00:41:20 2024
    On 20 Apr 2024 at 07:32p, Skylar pondered and said...

    I started using UALR's VAX in 1986. UALR got on BITNET in 1988, I think, and then was the second university in the state to get Internet in 1990.

    This implies those VAXen were running VMS? Ah, JNET.
    There was also a Unix implementation of RSCS that ran
    on at least Data General machines under DG-UX, called
    "UREP". BITNET relays were the prototype for IRC.

    Lots of those ADM3a terminals in 3 computer labs.

    In the mid-to-late 80s, UALR had two computer labs for VAX access with VT220 terminals. Their VAX was a cluster of four 11/780s.

    4 hardwired ports and 6 ports hooked up to a dial-up port selector.

    Yikes. There were VT220 terminals all over UALR, as the system was used for both administrative work and academic classes. I want to say there
    are 24 modems, although I my memory could be way off. There were
    certainly more than 6. Those same phone lines/modems were used to access the BBS, although the BBS could only be accessed on one of the trunk lines.

    DEC sold several products that could help here, among them
    the DECserver 100 (and later model) terminal servers.

    These were little boxes with an Ethernet, a bunch of serial
    lines, and a microcontroller and some RAM. They booted off
    of the network, from a VAX (or whatever could speak the MOP
    protocol) and let locally connected terminals connect to a
    "host" computer (e.g., a VAX, but also a PDP-11 or perhaps
    a PDP-10) over the Ethernet, using e.g. the LAT protocol.
    It was an evolution of the TIP idea from the ARPAnet, a
    decade prior. Eventually they might have gained the ability
    to speak TCP/IP and perhaps TELNET, but I can't remember
    anymore; I haven't touched one in years. Anyway, the point
    is that by using these as terminal concentrators, you could
    support vastly more terminals than, say, a VAX could support
    serial ports for, even with DZ11 and DL11 boards (the former
    were awful because they had no buffering, and interrupted the
    host for every character received or transmitted).

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