• Re: Did anybody sleep well yesterday (July 4)?

    From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Tue Jul 9 07:16:00 2024
    Adept wrote to Spectre <=-

    But it works great for adjusting sleep schedules. So, when shifting
    lots of time zones, if I can get myself to mentally be okay with going
    to bed 5 hours earlier than I wanted to, and take melatonin, I'll
    actually manage to get to sleep earlier. And there's no chance at all
    that I would've been able to sleep like that without the melatonin.

    I should have tried that going +9 hours to the UK. It otok me a couple
    of days to get in sync. Coming back wasn't bad, I left Heathrow at 12
    noon, got into San Francisco at 2:45pm (elapsed time for me, 10.5
    hours), stayed awake until 9:30pm and woke up at 4:30.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 10 18:06:29 2024
    I should have tried that going +9 hours to the UK. It otok me a couple
    of days to get in sync. Coming back wasn't bad, I left Heathrow at 12 noon, got into San Francisco at 2:45pm (elapsed time for me, 10.5
    hours), stayed awake until 9:30pm and woke up at 4:30.

    Yeah, going east is pretty much always worse than going west.

    At least if you're like me, where it's not generally hard to stay up an extra couple of hours, but it's almost impossible to go to sleep a couple of hours earlier, without meds.

    And, going west, suddenly I'm a morning person for a little while, and that allows for some possibilities that I wouldn't normally have.

    But, yeah, I tend to take melatonin when on long flights, as it makes it easier to at least get some low-quality sleep, and it's common to be traveling during the time when one would be asleep at the destination.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Wed Jul 10 14:54:16 2024
    Re: Re: Did anybody sleep well yesterday (July 4)?
    By: Adept to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 10 2024 06:06 pm

    But, yeah, I tend to take melatonin when on long flights, as it makes it easier to at least get some low-quality sleep, and it's common to be traveling during the time when one would be asleep at the destination.

    At least on the eastbound flights I can set my watch to the destination time zone and fake myself into sleeping a normal cycle. Coming back is like permanent twilight (or noon) and messes with me. I think I may have gotten 3o minutes of sleep coming back.
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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 11 20:08:58 2024
    At least on the eastbound flights I can set my watch to the destination time zone and fake myself into sleeping a normal cycle. Coming back is like permanent twilight (or noon) and messes with me. I think I may have gotten 3o minutes of sleep coming back.

    Those days are _weird_.

    When I first was traveling from my place in Germany to a site in California, I had a day where I started at 1a or something, and arrived at my hotel at 6p, while gaining 9 time zones.

    And, with the plane, I left at 10a or so, and arrived at 2 or 3p. So it's a really trippy 33-hour day, where I'd spent 25+ hours traveling in a single day, most of it being daylight.

    Since realizing that the company only pays for 12 hours of travel a day (you're supposed to stop traveling, after that, I guess), I shifted to getting a hotel at the airport, rather than attempting to travel day-of.

    It's especially a good idea, because there is no possible way to arrive and _not_ be tired, while winding up driving for a couple of hours in LA-area traffic at the end of the journey.

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