Melbourne?... Australia or Florida?
Spectre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
goodies from there that year. Then each end of financial year they'd
throw out a bit more. Was good while it lasted.
[...]I started with Netware 2.2 on a Mac network running on Token Ring
Did NetWare 2.2 server really run on a Mac or was it just a client?
Netware ran on a generic 386 PC. Clients were all Mac.
Yep, token passing topologies were the thing back then, when Ethernet was all shared space. Before ethernet switches, collisions were a serious
issue and the network could seriously degrade.
My first switched network used a 6 port 10 megabit ethernet switch as a core switch, and 24 port hubs as user switches. That was fancy stuff back then.
I did a lot of stuff with ARCnet back then - seriously lenient. We'd run
it on different grades of coax, accidentally plug hubs into hubs, and it still worked. Passing a token meant that it'd degrade gracefully. Having
to set a network ID via jumper was a pain, though.
Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking them how many syllables were in the word "coax".
I was a member of a Novell user group in the SF Bay area from 1991-1996, and we'd met once at their office in San Jose. I remember being in my 20s and amazed at an office campus with day care, a spa, hair salon, day care, a food court with high chairs so you could have lunch with your kid, a pond, walking paths...
Fast forward many years later and I wondered why my current office space looked familiar. My current employer had bought the Novell campus and I
was working in the same place.
I never understood why anyone really wants a Windows Server system, and ac>> I pity everyone who has to work on such systems (me included).
In the past, NetWare always was the better option and today a
Linux-based system would be my preferred choice.
Novell's high cost got Microsoft's foot in the door, and just good enough (but significantly cheaper) gave them an opening.
So, given your choice of Netware for file and print services, and a UNIX environment for IP management, or a couple of NT boxes with GUIs to do it all, lots of companies took the Microsoft path.
Active Directory versus Novell DS was the final killer. With Microsoft owning most of the client OSes that was a done deal.
I made a good living setting up Linux environments with mail, groupware
and file/web services for startups back in the early 2000s for people who couldn't afford "WOEA", but now I think G suite does a better job than bringing it in-house.
My eBay finding of NetWare 4.11 and GroupWise will arrive approx.
friday and the seller told me that he included some other Novell
products he is clearing out :)
Please don't make me run a Novell network at my house. Please don't make
me want to run a Novell network at my house...
Going from a 286 to a 386, or 386 to 486? Amazing.
Yep. And so Token-Ring had a real advantage :)
Yep. And so Token-Ring had a real advantage :)
I believe it was a bit horses for courses... an over large ethernet could have bad collision problems, and multiple collision problems as the
fallback was stop for a predetermined time and try again, so two of more nodes with collisions could keep colliding. But in a low utilisation/node density you could get better throughput than with token-ring. But a load that could bring ethernet to its knees would still be chugging along with token ring. A little like comparing a diseasal to petrol/gas or a
racehorse to a war-horse to completely different schools of thought.
Hmm, as Token-Ring had 16 MBit/s and Ethernet had 10 MBit/s, at least the
acn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking them how many syllables were in the word "coax".
Could you explain this one to me? Sorry :)
I don't ever recall anything much causing network saturation though either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.
Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking pF>> them how many syllables were in the word "coax".
Could you explain this one to me? Sorry :)
"normal" people pronounce it with one syllable, network people with two syllables.
I am/was certain TR had a lower signalling rate though.. Was there more
than one version maybe? Ahh there was 4 and 16Mbps versions...
I don't ever recall anything much causing network saturation though
either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba
you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.
either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.
Well, that is a network saturation then :) And *that* wouldn't
happen in a TR network.
On 06-11-21 12:30, Spectre wrote to acn <=-
Sometimes you need to coax the coax into working :)
bbsing wrote to all <=-
I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.
bbsing wrote to all <=-
I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it. Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.
Cheyenne? That brings back memories. I ran it and ArcServe back in my
3.11 days. What are you running it on?
I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.
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I probably have Netware around here somewhere...
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Commodore Clifford wrote to Bf2K+ <=-
But I had been in a certification class for CNA/CNE back in the 90's
and that included a low user version of 3.11 that I actually ended up using when I started my business. :)
I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.
What are you asking?
On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think I gave those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that software to BBS systems.
Commodore Clifford wrote to Bf2K+ <=-
But I had been in a certification class for CNA/CNE back in the
90's and that included a low user version of 3.11 that I
actually ended up using when I started my business. :)
I was a Netware admin back in the '90s, too. The Silicon Valley
Novell User Group would meet at the Novell campus in San Jose, and I
was impressed at what my seat licenses bought them -- reflection
pools, massive food court, free snacks, expensive cubicles, on-site daycare, dry-cleaning, a mini market...
Many years later, I worked for a large internet auction site and
couldn't figure out why the campus looked so familiar - it was the
old Novell Campus!
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On 17 Apr 2023, Commodore Clifford said the following...
I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid
of it.
I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.
What are you asking?
I'm asking if anyone wants the software.
On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think
I gave those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that
software to BBS systems.
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Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
By: bbsing to Commodore Clifford on Wed Apr 19 2023 11:24 pm
On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think I g those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that software to B systems.
Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...
Well, what I meant was if you wanted anything for it... Yeah, I'd like a copy... whether it's the originals or not is less meaningful if someone wants the actual original box/manuals/etc... Not that I wouldn't like them, but I focus my "original with box etc." to mostly Atari stuff or iconic games.
Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...
I could have sworn I made copies of those discs and the serials. But I can ask the crew and re-pc if they still have it.
I went searching on my systems online for the disc/images/iso files but my searches came up fruitless. I have one system were I was attempting to archive all my floppy discs, but I have to pull it from storage.
I'll have to continue to rummage through my collection.
Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...
Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the li key for 4.x is hard to find...
If you come across it, and willing to share it, I'd appreciate it.
deon, I can't believe it, but I found:
the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1
Find it on bottomless abyss bbs.
the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1
On 30 Nov 2023, deon said the following...
the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1
deon, I found some more stuff I have. The install and document files.
I'll have to go through the other stuff I found as well. I would love to put it up so it doesn't get lost forever.
I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.
I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.
That should still be OK though right?
I'm going to have a play this weekend if I can get some time.
In the mean time, I just went over to winworld (which has the CD but no license disks) - and there is a comment about 4.2 CD with a license disk as well. (But it also says somebody had problems with it, by not having
a base license - so hopefully yours is the missing piece :)
winworld ... is that a bbs?
I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.
That should still be OK though right?
let me know if it works. The stuff I have was from copies of original disks, that I can't find yet. I really think I gave those to re-pc during a moment of insanity, so no original envelopes. The software disks came in a white envelope with serial and other things in it, and the og floppies had info
on them. I tried to copy that onto my backup copies of the disks.
So I tried your 100 user license disk and it does work.
So googled and found a Netware 4.1 CD, installed and it works.
Anyway, this is still super useful for me, so thanks again...
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