• Re: Novell NetWare :)

    From Spectre@21:3/101 to N1uro on Mon Jun 7 09:14:00 2021
    Melbourne?... Australia or Florida?

    Ostraya mate, we don't give a continental about Florida :) Did know there was one in Florida, but seeing as the US has almost one of everything from everywhere else in the world, its not to surprising.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Sun Jun 6 10:18:00 2021
    Spectre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    goodies from there that year. Then each end of financial year they'd
    throw out a bit more. Was good while it lasted.

    Good times. Back then, I think each generation was so much more powerful
    that a lot more usable stuff was tossed by companies.

    Going from a 286 to a 386, or 386 to 486? Amazing.

    Going from a Core 2 duo to an i5? Not so much.

    If it weren't for the speed boost with SSDs, a lot of companies would keep their hardware around for much longer and not upgrade to newer systems. The industry had better come up with another speed bump in a couple of years' time, or going from an i9 to i11 will be a tough choice for companies when enough is good enough.


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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 8 17:56:00 2021
    Am 03.06.21 schrieb poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo poindexter,

    I started with Netware 2.2 on a Mac network running on Token Ring
    [...]
    Did NetWare 2.2 server really run on a Mac or was it just a client?

    Netware ran on a generic 386 PC. Clients were all Mac.

    Ah okay, that I got it wrong :)

    Yep, token passing topologies were the thing back then, when Ethernet was all shared space. Before ethernet switches, collisions were a serious
    issue and the network could seriously degrade.

    Yep. And so Token-Ring had a real advantage :)

    My first switched network used a 6 port 10 megabit ethernet switch as a core switch, and 24 port hubs as user switches. That was fancy stuff back then.

    Oh, I don't remember what my first Ethernet setups looked like.
    But at least at home, it wasn't fancy stuff :)

    I did a lot of stuff with ARCnet back then - seriously lenient. We'd run
    it on different grades of coax, accidentally plug hubs into hubs, and it still worked. Passing a token meant that it'd degrade gracefully. Having
    to set a network ID via jumper was a pain, though.

    ;-)

    Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking them how many syllables were in the word "coax".

    Could you explain this one to me? Sorry :)
    (I guess I don't have enough experience with coax networks, as I've only
    used the 10base2 'cheapernet')

    I was a member of a Novell user group in the SF Bay area from 1991-1996, and we'd met once at their office in San Jose. I remember being in my 20s and amazed at an office campus with day care, a spa, hair salon, day care, a food court with high chairs so you could have lunch with your kid, a pond, walking paths...

    Fast forward many years later and I wondered why my current office space looked familiar. My current employer had bought the Novell campus and I
    was working in the same place.

    Nice coincidence :)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jun 8 18:05:00 2021
    Am 03.06.21 schrieb poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo poindexter,

    I never understood why anyone really wants a Windows Server system, and ac>> I pity everyone who has to work on such systems (me included).
    In the past, NetWare always was the better option and today a
    Linux-based system would be my preferred choice.

    Novell's high cost got Microsoft's foot in the door, and just good enough (but significantly cheaper) gave them an opening.

    That's right.

    So, given your choice of Netware for file and print services, and a UNIX environment for IP management, or a couple of NT boxes with GUIs to do it all, lots of companies took the Microsoft path.

    Sadly, that's true.
    And when Novell integrated TCP/IP in a better way (NetWare 5), it was too late...

    Active Directory versus Novell DS was the final killer. With Microsoft owning most of the client OSes that was a done deal.

    Although I don't understand it. If one had used NetWare, GroupWise and ZenWorks, the network management was quite similar to a ActiveDirectory
    and GroupPolicy system, even with more features - as far as I remember.

    I made a good living setting up Linux environments with mail, groupware
    and file/web services for startups back in the early 2000s for people who couldn't afford "WOEA", but now I think G suite does a better job than bringing it in-house.

    Maybe, but you give away the control over your data (and the data itself).
    You are even more dependant on the system, that it is available and that
    no AI system thinks you did something wrong and closes the account.

    My eBay finding of NetWare 4.11 and GroupWise will arrive approx.
    friday and the seller told me that he included some other Novell
    products he is clearing out :)

    Please don't make me run a Novell network at my house. Please don't make
    me want to run a Novell network at my house...

    ;-) My package arrived and it looks nice :)
    At the moment, I have my NetWare 3.12 VM running and I'm collecting all
    the patches for the 3.x and 4.x versions and will put them in my BBS's
    file base.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jun 9 14:59:00 2021
    Going from a 286 to a 386, or 386 to 486? Amazing.

    Not sure what the year was now... but early-ish 486 territory, and they through out a few 386DX models.. a lot of it was ooooold stuff though too... I forget the model number, but there was a 1U rack that stood about 5-6' tall, 5170 or something maybe, a couple of XT boxes with a coax based card for terminal use... Definitely a RT/6000 though as well, never did get that to run though :/

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Wed Jun 9 15:04:00 2021
    Yep. And so Token-Ring had a real advantage :)

    I believe it was a bit horses for courses... an over large ethernet could have bad collision problems, and multiple collision problems as the fallback was stop for a predetermined time and try again, so two of more nodes with collisions could keep colliding. But in a low utilisation/node density you could get better throughput than with token-ring. But a load that could bring ethernet to its knees would still be chugging along with token ring. A little like comparing a diseasal to petrol/gas or a racehorse to a war-horse to completely different schools of thought.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Spectre on Wed Jun 9 10:50:00 2021
    Am 09.06.21 schrieb Spectre@21:3/101 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Spectre,

    Yep. And so Token-Ring had a real advantage :)

    I believe it was a bit horses for courses... an over large ethernet could have bad collision problems, and multiple collision problems as the
    fallback was stop for a predetermined time and try again, so two of more nodes with collisions could keep colliding. But in a low utilisation/node density you could get better throughput than with token-ring. But a load that could bring ethernet to its knees would still be chugging along with token ring. A little like comparing a diseasal to petrol/gas or a
    racehorse to a war-horse to completely different schools of thought.

    Hmm, as Token-Ring had 16 MBit/s and Ethernet had 10 MBit/s, at least the nominal speed was higher.
    And I remember that copying files between my Linux machines really was
    fast and made use of that speed in my TR network.
    So it really outperformed a 10 MBit/s Ethernet network...

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Thu Jun 10 00:49:00 2021
    Hmm, as Token-Ring had 16 MBit/s and Ethernet had 10 MBit/s, at least the

    Interesting, I never actually used TR only ThinNet back then, although I did have a couple of people try and talk me into it for perceived advantage. I am/was certain TR had a lower signalling rate though.. Was there more than one version maybe? Ahh there was 4 and 16Mbps versions... I do believe I was being offered 4Mbps as being more effective at full load than 10Mbps Ethernet

    I don't ever recall anything much causing network saturation though either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to acn on Wed Jun 9 07:32:00 2021
    acn wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking them how many syllables were in the word "coax".

    Could you explain this one to me? Sorry :)

    "normal" people pronounce it with one syllable, network people with two syllables.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Wed Jun 9 11:08:39 2021
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare :)
    By: Spectre to acn on Thu Jun 10 2021 12:49 am

    I don't ever recall anything much causing network saturation though either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.

    I had a couple of systems in colo facilities where they'd provide a 10 mbps connection that would start falling over around 6 mbps.
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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 10 10:02:00 2021
    Am 09.06.21 schrieb poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo poindexter,

    Someone once joked that you could tell who was a network person by asking pF>> them how many syllables were in the word "coax".

    Could you explain this one to me? Sorry :)

    "normal" people pronounce it with one syllable, network people with two syllables.

    Oh okay :) Yes, I'm also pronouncing it "co-axial" :)
    Thanks!

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Spectre on Thu Jun 10 11:26:00 2021
    Am 10.06.21 schrieb Spectre@21:3/101 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Spectre,

    I am/was certain TR had a lower signalling rate though.. Was there more
    than one version maybe? Ahh there was 4 and 16Mbps versions...

    Yes, there were 4 and 16 MBit/s versions, and even a 100 MBit/s version later.

    I don't ever recall anything much causing network saturation though
    either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba
    you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.

    Well, that is a network saturation then :)
    And *that* wouldn't happen in a TR network.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Fri Jun 11 12:30:00 2021
    Sometimes you need to coax the coax into working :)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to acn on Fri Jun 11 12:35:00 2021
    either. The only time I ever ran into issues was bulk copying via samba you could lock all the other nodes until copying finished.

    Well, that is a network saturation then :) And *that* wouldn't
    happen in a TR network.

    I'm not so sure it was "network" saturation as "server" saturation. At the time we used to retire the oldest PC to the server role. I think at this stage the server was struggling to process packets, but it was also working as a router for both dialup and eventually ADSL. The file copying issue was the only one that ever killed everything. Eventually it "the server" started throwing errors and locking the card up with overflow back to back writes to the card, whatever it was... but either way I think you're right even if the card/server wasn't keeping up TR would still release it.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Fri Jun 11 18:42:00 2021
    On 06-11-21 12:30, Spectre wrote to acn <=-

    Sometimes you need to coax the coax into working :)

    :D


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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to all on Thu Apr 6 01:08:02 2023
    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
    Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to bbsing on Sat Apr 8 08:36:00 2023
    bbsing wrote to all <=-

    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
    Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

    Cheyenne? That brings back memories. I ran it and ArcServe back in my
    3.11 days. What are you running it on?




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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Apr 9 02:02:49 2023
    On 08 Apr 2023, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    bbsing wrote to all <=-

    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it. Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

    Cheyenne? That brings back memories. I ran it and ArcServe back in my
    3.11 days. What are you running it on?

    I'm not running it on anything right now. Its been in a box for years, I've saved it. Now I'm looking to send it to the BBSes/net via zip archives, or image files, and get rid of the actual physical box and discs.

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to bbsing on Mon Apr 17 14:39:02 2023
    On 06 Apr 23 01:08:02 bbsing wrote...

    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.
    Time for me to purge some stuff, and its on the list of things to go.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    What are you asking?

    Been awhile since I played with Novell. Wonder if I can even get the
    software anymore (I'm sure mine is long gone).

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  • From Bf2K+@21:3/171 to Commodore Clifford on Mon Apr 17 22:04:54 2023
    I probably have Netware around here somewhere...

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to Bf2K+ on Wed Apr 19 00:42:32 2023
    On 17 Apr 23 22:04:54 Bf2K+ wrote...

    I probably have Netware around here somewhere...

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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    Then again, I remind myself my project to-do list already exceeds my
    free-time capactiy. :)

    But I had been in a certification class for CNA/CNE back in the 90's and
    that included a low user version of 3.11 that I actually ended up using
    when I started my business. :)

    Good times. But yeah, I wouldn't mind setting one up again someday just
    for kicks.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Commodore Clifford on Wed Apr 19 08:22:00 2023
    Commodore Clifford wrote to Bf2K+ <=-

    But I had been in a certification class for CNA/CNE back in the 90's
    and that included a low user version of 3.11 that I actually ended up using when I started my business. :)

    I was a Netware admin back in the '90s, too. The Silicon Valley Novell
    User Group would meet at the Novell campus in San Jose, and I was
    impressed at what my seat licenses bought them -- reflection pools,
    massive food court, free snacks, expensive cubicles, on-site daycare,
    dry-cleaning, a mini market...

    Many years later, I worked for a large internet auction site and
    couldn't figure out why the campus looked so familiar - it was the old
    Novell Campus!



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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to Commodore Clifford on Wed Apr 19 23:24:02 2023
    On 17 Apr 2023, Commodore Clifford said the following...
    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid of it.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

    What are you asking?


    I'm asking if anyone wants the software.


    On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think I gave those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started
    purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that software to BBS systems.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Thu Apr 20 20:22:50 2023
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to Commodore Clifford on Wed Apr 19 2023 11:24 pm

    On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think I gave those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that software to BBS systems.

    Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...


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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Apr 20 21:25:50 2023
    On 19 Apr 23 08:22:00 poindexter FORTRAN wrote...

    Commodore Clifford wrote to Bf2K+ <=-

    But I had been in a certification class for CNA/CNE back in the
    90's and that included a low user version of 3.11 that I
    actually ended up using when I started my business. :)

    I was a Netware admin back in the '90s, too. The Silicon Valley
    Novell User Group would meet at the Novell campus in San Jose, and I
    was impressed at what my seat licenses bought them -- reflection
    pools, massive food court, free snacks, expensive cubicles, on-site daycare, dry-cleaning, a mini market...

    Many years later, I worked for a large internet auction site and
    couldn't figure out why the campus looked so familiar - it was the
    old Novell Campus!



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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    Now that made my day!

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to bbsing on Thu Apr 20 21:27:38 2023
    On 19 Apr 23 23:24:02 bbsing wrote...

    On 17 Apr 2023, Commodore Clifford said the following...
    I have Cheyene Fax Server software, and I'm going to get rid
    of it.

    I'm wondering if there is anyone here with interest, in the software.

    What are you asking?


    I'm asking if anyone wants the software.

    On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think
    I gave those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that
    software to BBS systems.

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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    Well, what I meant was if you wanted anything for it... Yeah, I'd like a copy... whether it's the originals or not is less meaningful if someone
    wants the actual original box/manuals/etc... Not that I wouldn't like
    them, but I focus my "original with box etc." to mostly Atari stuff or
    iconic games.

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Sun Apr 23 04:09:30 2023
    On 20 Apr 2023, deon said the following...
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to Commodore Clifford on Wed Apr 19 2023 11:24 pm

    On a side note I had the discs for netware 4.x and 3.14 and I think I g those away in December 2022 to re-pc. I got depressed and just started purging stuff, and didn't realize I wanted to upload that software to B systems.

    Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...



    I could have sworn I made copies of those discs and the serials. But I can
    ask the crew and re-pc if they still have it.
    I went searching on my systems online for the disc/images/iso files but my searches came up fruitless. I have one system were I was attempting to
    archive all my floppy discs, but I have to pull it from storage.

    I'll have to continue to rummage through my collection.

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to Commodore Clifford on Sun Apr 23 04:12:09 2023
    On 20 Apr 2023, Commodore Clifford said the following...

    Well, what I meant was if you wanted anything for it... Yeah, I'd like a copy... whether it's the originals or not is less meaningful if someone wants the actual original box/manuals/etc... Not that I wouldn't like them, but I focus my "original with box etc." to mostly Atari stuff or iconic games.

    I don't want anything for it, I just want to find it a home with someone who may want it for awhile and then find a new home as well if one so desired.

    I'll have to get pictures online to show the box and stuff.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Sun Apr 23 19:28:47 2023
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to deon on Sun Apr 23 2023 04:09 am

    Howdy,

    Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...

    I could have sworn I made copies of those discs and the serials. But I can ask the crew and re-pc if they still have it.
    I went searching on my systems online for the disc/images/iso files but my searches came up fruitless. I have one system were I was attempting to archive all my floppy discs, but I have to pull it from storage.

    I'll have to continue to rummage through my collection.

    If you come across it, and willing to share it, I'd appreciate it.


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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Mon Nov 27 21:59:41 2023
    On 20 Apr 2023, deon said the following...

    Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the license key for 4.x is hard to find...


    I can't believe it, I thought I donated the original discs to re-pc, but ... but a few days ago I found a box I took out of storage, and I found my floppies: netware 4.1 license disk and the registration disk for 100 users.

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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Wed Nov 29 00:55:00 2023
    On 23 Apr 2023, deon said the following...

    Did you, by any chance, keep the 4.x license disk? It seems the li key for 4.x is hard to find...

    If you come across it, and willing to share it, I'd appreciate it.


    deon, I can't believe it, but I found:
    the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1

    Find it on bottomless abyss bbs.

    If you can send me a personal netmail there if you need help.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Thu Nov 30 09:31:50 2023
    Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to deon on Wed Nov 29 2023 12:55 am

    deon, I can't believe it, but I found:
    the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1

    Find it on bottomless abyss bbs.

    Awesome, thanks.

    Logging on now!


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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Thu Nov 30 12:40:59 2023
    On 30 Nov 2023, deon said the following...
    the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1

    deon, I found some more stuff I have. The install and document files.
    I'll have to go through the other stuff I found as well. I would love to put
    it up so it doesn't get lost forever.

    I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Fri Dec 1 08:52:02 2023
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to deon on Thu Nov 30 2023 12:40 pm

    On 30 Nov 2023, deon said the following...
    the reg disk, and the 100 user license disk -- netware 4.1

    deon, I found some more stuff I have. The install and document files.
    I'll have to go through the other stuff I found as well. I would love to put it up so it doesn't get lost forever.

    I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.

    That should still be OK though right?

    I'm going to have a play this weekend if I can get some time.

    In the mean time, I just went over to winworld (which has the CD but no license disks) - and there is a comment about 4.2 CD with a license disk as well. (But it also says somebody had problems with it, by not having a base license - so hopefully yours is the missing piece :)


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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Fri Dec 1 01:36:24 2023

    I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.

    That should still be OK though right?

    I'm not sure.. I haven't used netware in a really really really long time.

    let me know if it works. The stuff I have was from copies of original disks, that I can't find yet. I really think I gave those to re-pc during a moment
    of insanity, so no original envelopes. The software disks came in a white envelope with serial and other things in it, and the og floppies had info
    on them. I tried to copy that onto my backup copies of the disks.

    Anyway long story short, please let me know if the reg and license works.

    I'm going to keep digging around for what I have.

    I'm going to have a play this weekend if I can get some time.

    In the mean time, I just went over to winworld (which has the CD but no license disks) - and there is a comment about 4.2 CD with a license disk as well. (But it also says somebody had problems with it, by not having
    a base license - so hopefully yours is the missing piece :)


    winworld ... is that a bbs?

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Fri Dec 1 18:15:48 2023
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to deon on Fri Dec 01 2023 01:36 am

    winworld ... is that a bbs?

    Nope, this...

    https://winworldpc.com/home

    Lots of old OSes :)


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to bbsing on Sat Dec 16 00:00:46 2023
    Re: Re: Novell NetWare fax server
    By: bbsing to deon on Fri Dec 01 2023 01:36 am

    I think the last file I uploaded was for 4.10 not 4.1.

    That should still be OK though right?

    let me know if it works. The stuff I have was from copies of original disks, that I can't find yet. I really think I gave those to re-pc during a moment of insanity, so no original envelopes. The software disks came in a white envelope with serial and other things in it, and the og floppies had info
    on them. I tried to copy that onto my backup copies of the disks.

    So I tried your 100 user license disk and it does work.

    It is only for Netware 4.1 - I first tried to install 4.11 and it wouldnt accept it during the install.

    I also tried Netware 4.2, but it wanted a "base license" (? I think that is what it wanted), so wouldnt accept it.

    So googled and found a Netware 4.1 CD, installed and it works.

    (Had to figure out how to get PCNET32 drivers from the 4.11 CD onto the 4.1 environment so that I could connect to it.)

    So it seems I can only be at 4.1 (even tried upgrading to 4.11 afterwards but it went back to a 2 user license).

    Anyway, this is still super useful for me, so thanks again...


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  • From bbsing@21:1/172 to deon on Tue Dec 26 01:28:58 2023
    On 16 Dec 2023, deon said the following...
    So I tried your 100 user license disk and it does work.

    I'm glad it works. My hand writing from many many years ago on faded paper its hard for me to tell what version it was.
    So googled and found a Netware 4.1 CD, installed and it works.

    I have some ISO images I created recently but I haven't made time to get them online. I've been busy enough fixing stuff at home I haven't made time to get software on the nets. I'm glad you found a version.

    Anyway, this is still super useful for me, so thanks again...

    when I get stuff together I'll let you know. I'm happy to help out if I can and keep our community active.

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